NFL 2020 Season: Gravy Edition!

zombiewizardhawk · Feb 20, 2020

Sterling said:
I'm sure there is, but they'll have to haggle over details. 17 games also means not an even number of games so unless they want to make everyone play a neutral field foreign game it'll be awkward for home/away splits. Can't wait for a Mahomes 6k yard season though!

Oh god, I could see them doing that to promote their games in other countries nonsense.

Sterling · Feb 20, 2020

zombiewizardhawk said:
Oh god, I could see them doing that to promote their games in other countries nonsense.

I mean you have to do something having half of the teams have an extra home game is bad.

Hoss · Feb 20, 2020

Maybe the worst 4 teams in the league each year can have nothing but home games.

Merrith · Feb 20, 2020

From what I heard, an extra regular season game would give another $5 billion of revenue to the players side of things. No idea if that would be final number or if they're just negotiating for more.

Fight · Feb 21, 2020

I like the extra teams in the playoffs, not sure about the 17th game. If they do it, they should get rid of a pre-season game.

The new playoff format would give us 13 total playoff games, including the Superbowl. It would give the best team in the conference a real advantage over everyone else, being the only team to get a bye. I like all that.

Merrith · Feb 21, 2020

Fight said:
I like the extra teams in the playoffs, not sure about the 17th game. If they do it, they should get rid of a pre-season game.

The new playoff format would give us 13 total playoff games, including the Superbowl. It would give the best team in the conference a real advantage over everyone else, being the only team to get a bye. I like all that.

I'm pretty sure the 17th regular season game essentially comes with there only being 3 preseason games (so removing one).

Ameraves · Feb 21, 2020

I'm pretty sure the 17th game is going to get voted down by the players, because they are not okay with the $250k cap on that 17th game.

Kaines · Feb 21, 2020

I heard on the radio this morning that this is a take it or leave it offer from the owners. Any downvote will result in a work stoppage. Not sure I believe that is true but that is the story the owners are going with.

Sterling · Feb 21, 2020

Ameraves said:
I'm pretty sure the 17th game is going to get voted down by the players, because they are not okay with the $250k cap on that 17th game.

Who knew a union would balk at such a small increase in compensation for a 6.25 percent increase in work?!?!

Sterling · Feb 21, 2020

Projected cap is 201.2 million. Prorating the cap/salaries for the extra game would be an increase of 12.6+ million. 250k is a joke. Also if they did the extra game as neutral field foreign games, that could be very exciting. Imagine watching Jacksonville vs Detroit live from Moscow!!

Merrith · Feb 21, 2020

Ameraves said:
I'm pretty sure the 17th game is going to get voted down by the players, because they are not okay with the $250k cap on that 17th game.

But overall salaries would increase because owners are offering a bigger percentage of the overall pie if players agree to a 17th game. I saw some numbers like player share going from 48% to 48.5%. 0.5% seems small, but I read it amounted to $5 billion. Obviously that's spread among all NFL players, but still should be a decent amount.

Sterling · Feb 21, 2020

Merrith said:
But overall salaries would increase because owners are offering a bigger percentage of the overall pie if players agree to a 17th game. I saw some numbers like player share going from 48% to 48.5%. 0.5% seems small, but I read it amounted to $5 billion. Obviously that's spread among all NFL players, but still should be a decent amount.

Sure, the cap thing might work, but they'll have to work out a lot of details like if they're going to prorate existng contracts and all that stuff.

Merrith · Feb 21, 2020

Sterling said:
Sure, the cap thing might work, but they'll have to work out a lot of details like if they're going to prorate existng contracts and all that stuff.

I would assume the owners are just offering a straight up increase to the cap relative to overall revenue.

Sources: 14 playoff teams likely in new NFL CBA

Okay, I had that wrong it isn't just a 0.5% increase.

As part of the deal now on the table, players would go from a 47% revenue share under the current deal to 48% share at 16 games, and then to a 48.5% share if they go to 17 games, shifting $5 billion of revenue to the players' side.

Also apparently playoff teams on bye weren't getting paid for the bye week, but they would now (of course, it would be 2 less teams).

Edit: Sorry, it IS 0.5% for agreeing to 17th game, but they're already going to get another 1% anyways.

Also...if they go to 17 game seasons, how do they determine who gets 9 home games versus 8.

jooka · Feb 21, 2020

NFLPA executive committee votes 6-5 against recommending CBA proposal

After NFL owners approved a proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement on Thursday, attention shifted to players as they need to approve any deal before it can go into place.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Shot down, for now or maybe not.

That’s just a recommendation and the 32 player reps are also expected to hold a vote Friday. That will also serve as a recommendation as the NFLPA will submit the proposal to the full membership whether or not the player reps vote in favor of the deal.

Sterling · Feb 21, 2020

Merrith said:
I would assume the owners are just offering a straight up increase to the cap relative to overall revenue.

Sources: 14 playoff teams likely in new NFL CBA

Okay, I had that wrong it isn't just a 0.5% increase.

Also apparently playoff teams on bye weren't getting paid for the bye week, but they would now (of course, it would be 2 less teams).

Edit: Sorry, it IS 0.5% for agreeing to 17th game, but they're already going to get another 1% anyways.

Also...if they go to 17 game seasons, how do they determine who gets 9 home games versus 8.

every team plays a neutral field game. so they can do 16 foreign games or games in other regions or whatever.

meStevo · Feb 21, 2020

The 250k cap is only on existing contracts, so in 2021 that's already only 200 players (who make more than $4.250m and would make less than their standard per game salary). It would be significantly less between now and when a 17th game is actually implemented.

jooka · Feb 21, 2020

Sterling said:
every team plays a neutral field game. so they can do 16 foreign games or games in other regions or whatever.

Makes you wonder if players will be fuck that and want 18 if they do agree to more

Merrith · Feb 21, 2020

Sterling said:
every team plays a neutral field game. so they can do 16 foreign games or games in other regions or whatever.

That's...a lot of neutral field games. Also who would each team be playing that extra game? Right now at 16 playing each team in your division twice (6), plus all the teams from another in conference division (4), all the teams from an out of conference division (4), and the teams from the other 2 divisions within your own conference that finished in the same place as you did the previous year (2) works out pretty well. They just going to add another division game where you would play someone 3 times, or some other random opponent?

Sterling · Feb 21, 2020

Merrith said:
That's...a lot of neutral field games. Also who would each team be playing that extra game? Right now at 16 playing each team in your division twice (6), plus all the teams from another in conference division (4), all the teams from an out of conference division (4), and the teams from the other 2 divisions within your own conference that finished in the same place as you did the previous year (2) works out pretty well. They just going to add another division game where you would play someone 3 times, or some other random opponent?

Could just be a game vs other conference of division ranking the way they do from the other 2 same conference divisions. Obviously the foreign game thing is made up, but it does seem like the league seems all about having more of those games anyways. All the foreign games being an AFC vs NFC team of equal division rankings across the board.

jooka · Feb 21, 2020

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