NFL 2020 Season: Gravy Edition!

jooka said:

I don't think Baltimore is nearly as good as last year, the surprise is gone now. The offense stats are down across the board, they need to up the offensive game planning to another level and I don't think they know what that is.

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They have a year of film on Lamar and an entire offseason to scheme for that offense. He isn’t a real Qb. He is an amazing athlete playing Qb, which has never worked in the long term.

This dude was waived by the Ravens. He's saved several TD's this year, 2 in this game alone. (though that BS PI against the Bills was called against him I think)

Brahma things:

• First and foremost. I prayed at the alter of our lord and savior Brady. The heavens sent The Carolina Panthers. Prayers answered.
• Brady for MVP! MVP! MVP!
• NO idea how the fuck the Patriots beat Baltimore. But damn if they didn't handle Jackson like they knew what he was going to do.
• Amazing how a year of footage just fucks with good QB's. Jackson better figure it out fast.
• Fuck if anyone can explain Cleveland at this point. But they are 6-3. Mayfield is garbage.
• Philip "Too many kids" Rivers is 6-3. Indy looked good!
• Say what you want about Gruden. What he is doing is working. Again another AFC team is 6-3!
• Russel Wilson has been outplayed two weeks in a row now. Yesterday was bad. He falling out of MVP race? /slideinBrady!
• How the fuck is Pittsburgh 9-0? Oh I know! They have a scrub laden schedule!
• NFC East. No team has more than 3 wins. DallASS is STILL in last place!

BrutulTM said:

It happens over and over. Put a super athlete at QB, they blow the league apart for a year, and then the defenses play them so they have to read the field and pass and most of them can't do it. Vick, Kapernick, RG3, and a ton of others. Even Cam to some extent although he had a couple good years later in his career. There are a few who turn the corner and actually turn into legit quarterbacks, like Russell Wilson and Steve Young, but most of them can't.

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Vick was pretty good for multiple years. Agree on the others though.

I'm very thankful that Lamar might end up a flash in the pan.

Patrick is Andy's muse and is running plays Reid has been storing in his private jerk off binder the past 20 years.

jooka said:

I don't think Lamar is the problem, it's a lack of putting him into better situations. Running the same ass tired shit everyone knows is whats hurting them, not that Lamar is playing worse. Like I said in my first post, they have no second level game planning. The offensive scheme is straight up figured out completely.

If you were to put Lamar on the Chiefs he would thrive I would wager because they know how to scheme a defense and use every little bit of the flaws that defense has to great advantage. They put there players in the best possible position to dominate a defense. Ravens clearly have no idea on how to achieve that.

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I think some of it is Lamar's lack of development as a passer. He led the league in passing TD's last year, but there was serious regression coming, and it's happening this year. Andrews fantasy owners can tell you all about it, same with people who keep starting Hollywood Brown for whatever reason.

He's also been nicked up a little this year, so the running hasn't been nearly as dynamic, and teams have been way more prepared for it. I also still don't look at the Ravens WR's and see much that should concern other teams, other than Brown having a lot of speed. Ingram has barely been healthy this year, too.

Ameraves said:

It's the Greg Roman special. Just ask 49ers fans during the Jim Harbaugh era.

Edit: Just to add to this though. I still believe, much like Kapernick, Lamar is limited in his passing ability and reading the field. So I think he is going to have a fairly low ceiling.

Also, LOL

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Is the insinuation that he was backing away cowardly? Because I can easily see that as being he was backing up because he thought the RB was coming that way, plus the offensive guy did clearly hook his arm at the end.

Kyler Murray ruined my weekend with 0.11s to go...

Merrith said:

I think some of it is Lamar's lack of development as a passer. He led the league in passing TD's last year, but there was serious regression coming, and it's happening this year. Andrews fantasy owners can tell you all about it, same with people who keep starting Hollywood Brown for whatever reason.

He's also been nicked up a little this year, so the running hasn't been nearly as dynamic, and teams have been way more prepared for it. I also still don't look at the Ravens WR's and see much that should concern other teams, other than Brown having a lot of speed. Ingram has barely been healthy this year, too.

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I definitely agree. Lamar was at his best when he was a wild card that defenses didn't know. Defensive coordinators catch up and catch up quick at least the competent ones and Lamar hasn't evolved as quickly. It could be ego or maturity or it could also be coaching and play calling. I would bet its mostly on Lamar though because you can see when he starts to press he stares down receiver after receiver. This isn't some huge knock against Lamar as its fairly typical of the process. Baltimore is still running the ball well enough play action should be working well. It has to be on the qb but he is still dynamic just needs to get into a rhythm like most qb's.

Mahomes has never been a running Qb. Really, neither has Wilson.