Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

For now, once it racks up enough high profile failures (I'm looking at you Star Citizen) the thumb screws will most likely get tightened on Kickstarter.

I don't see that happening. KS isn't 'racking up' failures and it never claimed to be a financial service, ever. KS is a site for people to create a campaign to raise money. It's an official "Ice Bucket Challenge" website.

Not sure why anyone thinks it's the responsibility of KS as a company to ensure you didn't just throw your money at a fire. All of this is in the website ToS and it makes no claim at being anything other than a social networking service.

The only way I see KS folding is if people wise up and stop using it to give companies that couldn't secure actual investment funds some money.

KS wasn't even legal until the SEC changed their rules in 2015. If the SEC gets enough complaints they could revise those rules at the drop of a hat depending on who's in control at the time. KS lives in that same ugly area as Net Neutrality since there is nothing in actual law protecting them they suffer the whims of political gamesmanship.

So KS was operating illegally from 2009 to 2015?

Looking into it more I'm a bit off. The 2015 change was aimed more at "real" investors (Think that Fig.co platform) under the JOBS act and not aimed John Q Public and Kickstarters fake "donation" platform. I can't find anything on regulations of "dotantions". I still very much believe that Kickstarter has a regulatory skullfucking waiting gleefully in it's future after enough people get sick of getting fucked over by frauds.

The thing is, even if SC folds, it's really not that much of a KS issue when you consider that the vast majority of their money came from post KS web sales.

Ok... so time for my check in. From what i'm reading, please are getting pretty riled up over Pre-Alpha access happening soon? Possibly this fall/winter?

I guess we are all in agreement this thing will release... right? Outside of the streams they have been running... do we have any other insight on the gameplay or is it all still really early?

How is "pre-alpha" access a thing? They signing people up to become developers?

Anything to make a buck... People have been dangling so many levels of testing phases at the end of the stick for awhile now. It's really kind of silly but i'm guessing people are putting the cash down on the table for it so i'm not sure who is truly ignorant.

Would you like to sign up for Pantheon's new Pre-coding™ phase?

Skanda said:

Would you like to sign up for Pantheon's new Pre-coding™ phase?

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Don't say stuff like that!?! You know we have people here that will sign up and then we'll have to put up with it.

Muligan said:

Ok... so time for my check in. From what i'm reading, please are getting pretty riled up over Pre-Alpha access happening soon? Possibly this fall/winter?

I guess we are all in agreement this thing will release... right? Outside of the streams they have been running... do we have any other insight on the gameplay or is it all still really early?

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I'd be pretty shocked if they began pre-alpha in 2017.

Pretty sure they've been trying to launch pre-alpha for the last 2 years. I think the reason they've pushed it off was because they were successful in funding the game which meant they could fix it up and build it out more. Just guessing, but if I had the resources to improve something before revealing it, even to the most devout of fans, I would use that money to improve it and produce more content to actually be tested.

I hope they know wtf they are doing with this faction and detective/lore reveal system. It sounds like they know what they are doing with it but I hope they also know at this point they have exactly enough rope to hang themselves lol.

This whole futuristic world/AI stuff is exactly what sunk EQ Next. News flash: you don't have enough funding to revolutionize the genre.

Remember Vanguard? Brad has always over promised and under delivered.

Skanda said:

Remember Vanguard? Brad has always over promised and under delivered.

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My gaming buddies I loved Vanguard as shitty as it was and I'm raiding Pantheon with the same group of people if it ever comes out. We will almost play anything with raids though so its not saying much.

I miss raiding with Krassus and his one liners. "im allergic to Jerry's Kids and broke women".