Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Brad , I've got to say that overall this is the first time I've been hopeful for this thing to fund. From the AMA to add-on tiers to the Boogie interview , hoping the positive KS improvements both campaign wise and site wise continue. Only reason I (and many of the others) have been critical of the KS is we genuinely want this game. (Leaving aside the obvious trolls).

Also I'm actually interested to see the early dev interaction on the pre alpha early testers. I've worked on the Networking/Sys Engineer side of things for years, and will never have the time to learn true programming or be a dev of any sort , but seeing a project come along from early stages on will be interesting to me. I don't mind doing the feedback either.

Brad just needs to convince Curt Schilling to come on board and they will be all set.

Oort_sl said:

Brad just needs to convince Curt Schilling to come on board and they will be all set.

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Good one 400 pages ago.

I like to hear his ideas if it doesn't make the kickstarter funding.

Because right now it looks bleak.

I think very few want to see this fail.

I say restart a new KS and do a M59 remake. It is one of the games that inspired EQ and would cost a lot less to build.

Hachima_sl said:

I say restart a new KS and do a M59 remake. It is one of the games that inspired EQ and would cost a lot less to build.

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M59 was about solo grinding a character into a certain build, then participating in silly little PVP minigames.

Could work. However, it was a PVP game through and through.

probably over 20k today, so that's something.

boogie was a good move.

mkopec_sl said:

You guys said that some of you , maybe not you personally but some, are playing on the P99 server to recapture that old EQ feel. What are your thoughts of old eq. What do you like and what would you change?

Also will you be expanding your combat doc to explain in further detail about the "decks" you speak of and how it all works in more detail?

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You can't recapture the old EQ feeling on those emulated servers because they have such a small community. There are probably 100 people who play on the pvp server. It's kind of sad.

Quaid_sl said:

probably over 20k today, so that's something.

boogie was a good move.

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Agreed. I watched it, enjoyed it. Wouldn't mind seeing another in the future.

Column_sl said:

I like to hear his ideas if it doesn't make the kickstarter funding.

Because right now it looks bleak.

I think very few want to see this fail.

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From the AMA on Reddit:

Hey Brad,
Does the team have a contingency plan if this KS effort fails to fund?

Brad - "We may do it again and we will be approaching investors and publishers. That said, I think we're going to make it "

Quineloe_sl said:

M59 was about solo grinding a character into a certain build, then participating in silly little PVP minigames.

Could work. However, it was a PVP game through and through.

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Which is an interesting point. Solo leveling, yet great communities were formed within the game.

Hachima_sl said:

Which is an interesting point. Solo leveling, yet great communities were formed within the game.

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The main reason for that was that online gaming in the late 90s was fucking expensive and children had very little access to the game. So you had the most mature target audience ever. That is completely impossible to reproduce today.

i'm liking more and more about what i'm hearing and seeing with this game. definitely something i'd want to play. even if the KS doesn't go, i'm hoping they can take whatever they do have and find a publisher/investor. forget the $800,000, i'd like to see where they could take this with $15 or $20 million.

Quineloe_sl said:

The main reason for that was that online gaming in the late 90s was fucking expensive and children had very little access to the game. So you had the most mature target audience ever. That is completely impossible to reproduce today.

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I dunno, there were plenty of high school age kids playing. The great thing was if someone was too obnocious, you'd hunt them down Kind of like a good old fashioned spanking to keep some discipline. If you were a loadmouth jerk, you'd suffer for it

I think the communities were more about people having a common goal. Starting with pkers vs pk hunters and the strength that came from banding together to achieve a similar goal.

etchazz_sl said:

i'm liking more and more about what i'm hearing and seeing with this game. definitely something i'd want to play. even if the KS doesn't go, i'm hoping they can take whatever they do have and find a publisher/investor. forget the $800,000, i'd like to see where they could take this with $15 or $20 million.

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Go overboard, become over extended, and release a bloated unfinished game when the publisher gets angsty for immediate profit?

It is inevitable that VR is going to get funded. It is clear there is support to get this idea off the ground. If this KS fails, I believe they'll be able to recover most of the funds offered this round; either through a new expedited KS (I say that not knowing the rules) or a more direct approach. I don't know if they'll make it to the next stage of funding after that, but I'm certain they will have a chance to.

VR should have a web site up to capture contact information for everyone interested in the project. Something easy.