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I was more talking about his insistence on meeting his other self. And then laughing at all the minor things that were different.

"What is this? Did I make you? Psh, this is a snake, not a dragon! Wha...there's supposed to be three, there's six! What do six cats have to talk about?"
 
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Gravel said:
I was more talking about his insistence on meeting his other self. And then laughing at all the minor things that were different.

"What is this? Did I make you? Psh, this is a snake, not a dragon! Wha...there's supposed to be three, there's six! What do six cats have to talk about?"
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He's the basic Adam Sandler annoying retard that he played in all his early films. If you like laughing at retarded people he's an awesome character. Like Drax from GotG.

Mama says alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no tooth brush.
 
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So there is an actual comic where this all happens in aternate Nazi USA? I had no idea if so, and I had no idea that is where this was going, and whoever said they saw this telegraphed 4 episodes ago, I sure didn't. But I grew up in a small midwestern town, about 25k people and we had a grand total of 2 black people in town when I was a kid. When that twist happened it took me by total surprise and I thought it was pretty damn cool. But then as I thought more about it, what is Gunn trying to tell us when the all white universe is clean and happy and serene and peaceful? I think I'm missing the message as it really did seem like utopia prior to the reveal.
 
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So there is an actual comic where this all happens in aternate Nazi USA? I had no idea if so, and I had no idea that is where this was going, and whoever said they saw this telegraphed 4 episodes ago, I sure didn't. But I grew up in a small midwestern town, about 25k people and we had a grand total of 2 black people in town when I was a kid. When that twist happened it took me by total surprise and I thought it was pretty damn cool. But then as I thought more about it, what is Gunn trying to tell us when the all white universe is clean and happy and serene and peaceful? I think I'm missing the message as it really did seem like utopia prior to the reveal.
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The twist is they're all trump supporting bigoted actual nazis. You really did nazi that coming?

Go back a page, I think people saw it coming in Ep.3 with the sons of liberty scene. The sons of liberty are the good antifa freedom fighters. I guess Peacemaker will join up with them and kill his brother and lock up his dad again.
 
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I noticed the lack of blacks in the good universe and assumed the world was all white and that explained everything. To be honest, going back to the time honored "Nazis" crutch is pretty weak.

They should have just written Blacks never existed there and write in some amazing comedy the first time they see one. Instead of comedy, we get everyone wanting to kill the "escaped" black.
 
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So there is an actual comic where this all happens in aternate Nazi USA? I had no idea if so, and I had no idea that is where this was going, and whoever said they saw this telegraphed 4 episodes ago, I sure didn't. But I grew up in a small midwestern town, about 25k people and we had a grand total of 2 black people in town when I was a kid. When that twist happened it took me by total surprise and I thought it was pretty damn cool. But then as I thought more about it, what is Gunn trying to tell us when the all white universe is clean and happy and serene and peaceful? I think I'm missing the message as it really did seem like utopia prior to the reveal.
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It's more about knowing current Hollywood and/or what's "acceptable" for TV show runners to put on TV in the west (BBC inserted non-white nobility in a TV show about Henry VIII (Wolf Hall S2) ). If you see any group that is only white people, they are basically the bad guys.

While watching the first time, I didn't necessarily notice there were no brown people in the alt dimension until that first episode was over and even most of the "terrorists" were old/white, not fighting age males. So immediately went back and watched him drive through town then go into the office again and yep, they were obviously in a dimension where his white power dad wins.
 
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Put me down as another that didn't notice there were only whites until it was mentioned here. But I live in a very, very white area, so it just looked normal.
 
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Put me down as another that didn't notice there were only whites until it was mentioned here. But I live in a very, very white area, so it just looked normal.
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The hint for me was a government agency with zero minorities.
 
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Vigilante2 losing his shit because he didn't kill His peacemaker would fit. I'm ready to hate next week's episode
 
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Well at least something would be happening.
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Yeah, but the most obvious thing happening isn't so great. Oh you liked this dimension? You must be a racist! Fuck this bullshit. I can't watch anything anymore. All of it is tainted. I'm still not interested in finishing s2 Wednesday.
 
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Chukzombi said:
Yeah, but the most obvious thing happening isn't so great. Oh you liked this dimension? You must be a racist! Fuck this bullshit. I can't watch anything anymore. All of it is tainted. I'm still not interested in finishing s2 Wednesday.
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This is where I get confused and/or conflicted because it wasn't you or me that made that dimension perfect and clean and happy it was the showrunners, so arent they the racist ones not you and me? Shit is diabolical.
 
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Chukzombi said:
Yeah, but the most obvious thing happening isn't so great. Oh you liked this dimension? You must be a racist! Fuck this bullshit. I can't watch anything anymore. All of it is tainted. I'm still not interested in finishing s2 Wednesday.
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Bro I grew up in the US south , we were not known for our tolerant ways.
 
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Shit, that town looked very similar to where I grew up in Louisiana demographics wise.
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I live in the Pacific Northwest and it looked normal to me. Oregon is only 3% black.

i was thrown off though, bc I thought maybe Ads was a villain in that dimension or something then out of left field they made it a race issue lol. Wtf
 
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I agree with what everyone else is saying. It was a great piece of unintentional comedy.

Hollywood freaks are loking around going "why why are there no people of color, this is terrifying"

Normal people are looking around going "yup looks like a normal day where I live"

Its like an unintended dog whistle or something, its hilarious
 
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Bro I grew up in the US south , we were not known for our tolerant ways.
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I have said many times that rural southern blacks are nothing like northern/urban blacks. The ones who grew up after centuries of working for massa still possess a modicum of understanding how that paradigm could make a comeback and act accordingly.
 
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I agree with what everyone else is saying. It was a great piece of unintentional comedy.

Hollywood freaks are loking around going "why why are there no people of color, this is terrifying"

Normal people are looking around going "yup looks like a normal day where I live"

Its like an unintended dog whistle or something, its hilarious
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I think part of the misdirection is we kept getting scenes with Ads, so the “lack of black people” wasn’t really noticeable.

The second part is that when I see a cast, I never am like “ok is there at least one black person on screen? Cool.” Because normal people don’t judge characters based on color but their acting ability and character. Only sociopaths look at skin color first.

Third, when it IS perfectly diverse, it’s hella jarring. Disney’s most recent movies where it’s a medieval kingdom but they have an Asian, a black, a Latino, a white woman, and no straight white men in an English speaking Western European medieval country IS jarring because it’s so immersive breaking. That’s not how civilizations are. At most youd have predominantly 1 skin color, and then a small subset of nearby color. Like a Portuguese kingdom would be mostly white then a few Arabs from North Africa. MAYBE a sub Saharan black person but even that was extremely rare in medieval europe. Let alone having Latino people in Europe before the discovery of the new world. That’s some Graham Hancock level world building.

yet James Gunn is pointing the finger at the audience like, “YOU DIDNT NOTICE THIS? You bigot.”
 
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INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS said:
I think part of the misdirection is we kept getting scenes with Ads, so the “lack of black people” wasn’t really noticeable.

The second part is that when I see a cast, I never am like “ok is there at least one black person on screen? Cool.” Because normal people don’t judge characters based on color but their acting ability and character. Only sociopaths look at skin color first.

Third, when it IS perfectly diverse, it’s hella jarring. Disney’s most recent movies where it’s a medieval kingdom but they have an Asian, a black, a Latino, a white woman, and no straight white men in an English speaking Western European medieval country IS jarring because it’s so immersive breaking. That’s not how civilizations are. At most youd have predominantly 1 skin color, and then a small subset of nearby color. Like a Portuguese kingdom would be mostly white then a few Arabs from North Africa. MAYBE a sub Saharan black person but even that was extremely rare in medieval europe. Let alone having Latino people in Europe before the discovery of the new world. That’s some Graham Hancock level world building.

yet James Gunn is pointing the finger at the audience like, “YOU DIDNT NOTICE THIS? You bigot.”
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for me it's teeth. You have a perfectly detailed medieval scene and everyone has perfect straight white chiclets. Very jarring.
 
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