Sherlock

The disparity between A-list and B-list is too much. Most actors fall between Brad Pitt and John Leguizamo.

Alex_sl said:

The disparity between A-list and B-list is too much. Most actors fall between Brad Pitt and John Leguizamo.

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Cumberbatch is A-list in terms of talent. Like a lot of the top British actors he started in theatre with some TV work, he'd got awards and nominations for both years before Sherlock. In films I think he's alternating between doing commercial stuff to pay the bills (Hobbit, Star Trek) and more serious work (Tinker Tailor, Twelve Years a Slave), I doubt he'll ever be a major box office draw but I'm not sure he wants that.

Freeman isn't A list even in the UK, although he's pretty popular.

Well...

Maybe he really was an actor.

I've always considered a list when everyone knows their name . I could mention cumberbatch to a lot of people have no idea who I'm talking about

I would term him an up and comer.

I need to re-watch yesterday's episode. I agree with Running Dog that they slid the explanation for how he faked his death under the rug. I guess it's just Sherlock being Sherlock and that's the valid explanation?

The gay jokes are still funny.

Hurray, it's back!

EDIT - Just watched the first episode. Very entertaining. Be sure to watch the mini episode that aired before, it's around 7 minutes long. Adds a bit of pre-story into it.

I think Sherlock's brother tried to smoke Watson, just to make sure he is still good enough. Seems like something Sherlock brothers would do to each other.

Still great, especially the pokes at the fans.

Zaphid_sl said:

I think Sherlock's brother tried to smoke Watson, just to make sure he is still good enough. Seems like something Sherlock brothers would do to each other.

Still great, especially the pokes at the fans.

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Well the main bad guys was enjoying a clip of it at the end so... erm... no.

if they are following the canon, then the man with the glasses is Colonel Sebastian Moran, Moriarty's right hand man. if the next episode deals with a certain special air rifle then its him for sure. otherwise no idea who that was. i really missed this show. cant believe just 2 more episodes then we wait another year or 2 or never before the next 3.

i was watching shaun of the dead, hot fuzz and all 14 episodes of Spaced the other day (yeah i marathon that shit from time to time) and it kinda hit me that simon pegg who is a bigger star than freeman is still not considered an A-list star here in the US. its really a worthless thing these days because our A-list stars arent so much better. i consider pegg freeman and cumberbatch as good as if not better than somebody like will smith or tom cruise, but its just our culture that we need to have american accents on our favorite stars.

I think that they haven't been in enough high profile films yet. They were mostly limited to UK TV until last year. Let's see what they get after The Hobbit.

There is A-list in terms of being famous, which ebbs and rises with movie releases TV shows etc. Both are definitely famous A listers now, able to get into any restaurant, tv show, followed by papparazzi, etc. Then there is AAA list in terms of movie draw, basically a studio willing to solely mega-fund any movie that stars or is directed by you. Neither are at that stage right now, but that list is super tiny anyways, like 15-20 people. No doubt though their name attached to any project would instantly draw a ton of other good talent and financing, unlike most other TV show actors.

I thought the episode was just ok. the B plot of some random white dude working for North Korea (wtf) bombing congress, I mean parliament, was dumb and didn't feel "worthy" of Sherlock. I guess I need to watch the 7 minute preview thing, I didn't understand why Sherlock had to go underground and pretend to be dead to dismantle Moriarty's network. I was also expecting Watson's new squeeze to be a terrorist, so either she is brilliant at fooling Sherlock or she is probably gonna die next episode

I do hope they don't try to amp up each episode, I don't want to see Die Hard Sherlock edition where Sherlock has to save London/the world/the galaxy every time. I want bizarre cases with tons of red herrings and dead ends that only Sherlock is able to solve.

spronk_sl said:

I do hope they don't try to amp up each episode, I don't want to see Die Hard Sherlock edition where Sherlock has to save London/the world/the galaxy every time. I want bizarre cases with tons of red herrings and dead ends that only Sherlock is able to solve.

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Yes, totally agree. And I also thought the episode was just ok, well actually better than ok, but nothing like "A Scandal in Belgravia" (S2, E1). I give it a break though because they had to spend most of the episode getting things set back up. Plus, its just so damn entertaining having Sherlock back on.

Also I regret ever calling them A listers, biggest unintentional derail ever. Lets just call them B++ listers and move on.

Best part for me was the gay moment after discussing that shit on here. Enjoyed the episode but didn't care for how they handled Sherlock staged death

new episode tonight

I wonder if the episode was supposed to air on November 5th since that is when it takes place, with the second episode at Christmas and final at New Year?

Homsar_sl said:

Best part for me was the gay moment after discussing that shit on here. Enjoyed the episode but didn't care for how they handled Sherlock staged death

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Honestly I don't care if I ever know, to me it adds some mystery to the show.

I really hope they bring back Irene Adler, I think she adds a lot to the show as a foil/love interest to Sherlock.

Plus Watson should have kept the porn star stache!

Hmm better than the last episode but it seems they've decided to focus on the characters rather than the detection... and it just isn't as good that way. Hopefully there's a payoff to come in the last episode.