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That wage is more than Ronaldo/Messi earn.
So Falcao goes to Manc and Arsenal end up with....
Welbeck.
Fucks sake, they've replaced RVP before Arsenal have. Arsenal needed to sign a good striker and class CDM (at least) today to have any shot at the league, even then an outside shot and they are trying to loan in Danny Fuckin Welbeck all while Wenger is at a charity football match in Rome. On xfer deadline. IN FUCKING ROME.
Thank fuck I was around for the fappening last night or this would have been a truly awful holiday weekend.
So Falcao goes to Manc and Arsenal end up with....
Welbeck.
Fucks sake, they've replaced RVP before Arsenal have. Arsenal needed to sign a good striker and class CDM (at least) today to have any shot at the league, even then an outside shot and they are trying to loan in Danny Fuckin Welbeck all while Wenger is at a charity football match in Rome. On xfer deadline. IN FUCKING ROME.
Thank fuck I was around for the fappening last night or this would have been a truly awful holiday weekend.
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Glen Johnson, Robbie Keane, Joe Allen? You have a whole bunch of 20million flops.
Arsenal's transfer strategy is baffling to say the least. Short on defenders/forwards and Wenger refuses to pay for quality players. Welbeck would be a decent #3 option for most, but he would still be an improvement over Sanogolol.
Maul
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Liverpool wanted him on loan also, but he said no. No one knows how much its going to cost as the club hasn't released the information.
You constantly rave on about the costs involved in players, the club can obviously afford the deals, are you going to pay the transfer fees or wages personally? Why get so worked up over it.
We have still spent less than you in the last 5 years on transfers, how much have you won in that time?
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Really bummed to end up with only Welbeck (as it appears to be a done deal for 16m quid) - then I tune into my favorite opposing fans website redcafe and see they are having an absolute meltdown over Welbeck... Haha. Nothing like overrating your own players, and underrating others. Reckon he falls somewhere in the middle, but don't think he's good enough to "fix" Arsenals striker issues. Also, we have 6 fucking defenders on the books. SIX - to fill 4 slots during a 50 game, 4 competition season. Absolutely bizarre.
Welbeck is a really good buy for Arsenal, sad to see him go.
Also, Falcao's wages are supposedly around 180k.
Also, Falcao's wages are supposedly around 180k.
lol gif
Daley Blind played CM all of last season for Ajax and my Dutch mate highly rates him. Played well in the World cup in a couple of positions, versatile and a decent buy for an area of the pitch that an extra player will do no harm. Not a world class DM though but that might come in January with Strootman, and Blind can continue to play in a variety of roles where needed. Maybe a far better choice than Young, whilst Shaw needs time still for example.
Falcao is no way on any type of crazy wage over here, I very much doubt he's on something over ?250k for this loan window. Maybe they've agreed this with the intention to buy him and couldn't work out a deal in time, so if he does well at United you can expect him to be staying. WHICH IS SICK !
Defenders? Pfft..
Daley Blind played CM all of last season for Ajax and my Dutch mate highly rates him. Played well in the World cup in a couple of positions, versatile and a decent buy for an area of the pitch that an extra player will do no harm. Not a world class DM though but that might come in January with Strootman, and Blind can continue to play in a variety of roles where needed. Maybe a far better choice than Young, whilst Shaw needs time still for example.
Falcao is no way on any type of crazy wage over here, I very much doubt he's on something over ?250k for this loan window. Maybe they've agreed this with the intention to buy him and couldn't work out a deal in time, so if he does well at United you can expect him to be staying. WHICH IS SICK !
Defenders? Pfft..
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The guardian is saying he'll be the top wage earner at the club now at 265k though that contradicts their story last year when Rooney signed for 300k per week. And I don't give a shit what ManU spends, just pointing out the obvious that from the outside looking in it looks desperate and scatterbrained and if you don't get top 4 this year, which in my opinion you won't, then what's the answer at that point? Spend even more even though your income will start dropping with no CL again and commercial payments being lowered? Look at what the current formation lends itself to:
As far as Welbeck, he's better than Sanogo which I guess is something......
Edit: Was travelling all day so now I'm able to actually look at stuff off my phone, are you United fans really thinking a striker 2 years removed from his best form and on a bum knee is really going to do anything? Redcafe is all awash in title challenge and how the squad is better than LFC's which is laughable, can't wait for the game at OT in December. Lets hope you're out of the relegation zone by then.
As far as Welbeck, he's better than Sanogo which I guess is something......
Edit: Was travelling all day so now I'm able to actually look at stuff off my phone, are you United fans really thinking a striker 2 years removed from his best form and on a bum knee is really going to do anything? Redcafe is all awash in title challenge and how the squad is better than LFC's which is laughable, can't wait for the game at OT in December. Lets hope you're out of the relegation zone by then.
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No I thought falcao was a poor signing until I realised it's a loan which isn't so bad. 200k a week for one of the best forwards in football is worth a risk. You can't buy a whole team in one window. Love how he's past it now but was brilliant when Liverpool fans thought he was going there. Haha.
Rooney doesn't earn 300k either. A lot is performance based add ons so he's on 50 pence a week now.
You have to spend money to get back on top, we have only just topped Liverpool transfers for the last 5 years yet we are supposedly overspending like crazy some maths there. Forgetting the huge sponsorship deals and much increased tv money. The club's income is so far above any other premier league side that it doesn't matter.
Obviously forgetting Brendon rogers didn't win a game till October in his first season in charge either? Such a pathetic sour cunt aren't you
Rooney doesn't earn 300k either. A lot is performance based add ons so he's on 50 pence a week now.
You have to spend money to get back on top, we have only just topped Liverpool transfers for the last 5 years yet we are supposedly overspending like crazy some maths there. Forgetting the huge sponsorship deals and much increased tv money. The club's income is so far above any other premier league side that it doesn't matter.
Obviously forgetting Brendon rogers didn't win a game till October in his first season in charge either? Such a pathetic sour cunt aren't you
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Last 5 years according to transfermarkt.
e: For what it's worth, that table has Falcao at ?6.7m loan fee. The actual cost of the deal is a black box atm.
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Oliver Kay Chief Football Correspondent
Last updated at 12:01AM, September 2 2014
Manchester United's extravagant spending reflects how fast times have changed for the club, Oliver Kay writes
What a difference a year makes. Twelve months ago, the final hours of the transfer window were an embarrassment for Manchester United as frantic late moves to sign F?bio Coentr?o and Ander Herrera left Marouane Fellaini as their only summer signing. This time it has been all about the thrill of the chase: Luke Shaw, Herrera, Marcos Rojo, ?ngel di Mar?a, Daley Blind and finally Radamel Falcao.
It is among the most extravagant outlays in the game's history and it represents two very distinct and different phenomena. The first is the Glazer family's overdue realisation that underinvestment was no longer possible in the post-Ferguson era.The second, less welcome, is the extent of United's descent into the type of spending patterns that Sir Alex Ferguson, not so long ago, described as "kamikaze".
In the space of 12 months, starting with that ill-fated deal for Fellaini, United's transfer expenditure has exceeded ?200 millionand, for all Louis van Gaal's talk of "philosophy",it has seemed as wild and extravagant as the worst excesses of Chelsea under Roman Abramovich or Manchester City under Sheikh Mansour. Certainly, it will be a long time before anyone at Old Trafford dares to accuse Chelsea, City, Paris Saint-Germain or any other nouveau riche club of inflating the transfer market again.
So much of United's business over the past year or so seems to have been more about the desire of Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman, to make a statement than about creating or sustaining the kind of philosophy to which Van Gaal alludes. The ?37.5 million signing of Juan Mata only seemed to make sense if Wayne Rooney was on his way out, yet a fortnight later Rooney was signing a new contract worth a projected ?300,000 a week. The signings of Rojo, Shaw and Blind made sense in the context of Van Gaal's seemingly unswerving dedication to a 3-4-1-2 formation, but now, after a poor start, the talk is of a switch to a flat back four.
Some of the talk within Old Trafford of late is that, if United are back in the Champions League next season, the outlay will have proved more than worthwhile. Yes, it is essential that United force their way back into Europe's elite competition and yes, their chances of doing so have improved with just about each one of those deals, but to add ?200 million worth of talent to a title-winning squad should have been a guarantee that just about every weakness, short-term and long-term, was addressed. That has not been the case.
Much has been made of United's defensive deficiencies, particularly since Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra departed this summer, and the lack of steel and energy in midfield. There have also been growing concerns about the lack of chemistry between Mata, Rooney and Robin van Persie in attack. Whether the way forward under Van Gaal is 3-4-1-2, 4-3-1-2, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, it is not easy to discern a consistency of vision in United's transfer policy, even in the four months since they sacked David Moyes.
Then there is the knock-on effect of this outlay. United have always prided themselves on developing their own young players. Ferguson, while bemoaning others' tendency to "pay stupid money and silly salaries", spoke two years ago of United's dedication to preserving a home-grown core within the team and squad. Even if Tom Cleverley and Danny Welbeck are hardly of the class of David Beckham or Paul Scholes, it feels as if something might have been lost in the rush to clear the decks to make way for a vanity signing or two.
When Ferguson spoke of other clubs spending "stupid money", he was talking about City's deals to signs, among others, Yaya Tour?, David Silva and Sergio Ag?ero.Now, suddenly, City, Chelsea and others hear of the figures that United are offering for Shaw, Di Mar?a and Falcao and they leave them alone to get on with their business.No doubt they preferred the days when the Glazers were sucking United dry, but not too many of this summer's deals will cause sleepless nights at the Etihad Stadium or at Stamford Bridge, where they know very well that spending wildly does not guarantee success.
Last updated at 12:01AM, September 2 2014
Manchester United's extravagant spending reflects how fast times have changed for the club, Oliver Kay writes
What a difference a year makes. Twelve months ago, the final hours of the transfer window were an embarrassment for Manchester United as frantic late moves to sign F?bio Coentr?o and Ander Herrera left Marouane Fellaini as their only summer signing. This time it has been all about the thrill of the chase: Luke Shaw, Herrera, Marcos Rojo, ?ngel di Mar?a, Daley Blind and finally Radamel Falcao.
It is among the most extravagant outlays in the game's history and it represents two very distinct and different phenomena. The first is the Glazer family's overdue realisation that underinvestment was no longer possible in the post-Ferguson era.The second, less welcome, is the extent of United's descent into the type of spending patterns that Sir Alex Ferguson, not so long ago, described as "kamikaze".
In the space of 12 months, starting with that ill-fated deal for Fellaini, United's transfer expenditure has exceeded ?200 millionand, for all Louis van Gaal's talk of "philosophy",it has seemed as wild and extravagant as the worst excesses of Chelsea under Roman Abramovich or Manchester City under Sheikh Mansour. Certainly, it will be a long time before anyone at Old Trafford dares to accuse Chelsea, City, Paris Saint-Germain or any other nouveau riche club of inflating the transfer market again.
So much of United's business over the past year or so seems to have been more about the desire of Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman, to make a statement than about creating or sustaining the kind of philosophy to which Van Gaal alludes. The ?37.5 million signing of Juan Mata only seemed to make sense if Wayne Rooney was on his way out, yet a fortnight later Rooney was signing a new contract worth a projected ?300,000 a week. The signings of Rojo, Shaw and Blind made sense in the context of Van Gaal's seemingly unswerving dedication to a 3-4-1-2 formation, but now, after a poor start, the talk is of a switch to a flat back four.
Some of the talk within Old Trafford of late is that, if United are back in the Champions League next season, the outlay will have proved more than worthwhile. Yes, it is essential that United force their way back into Europe's elite competition and yes, their chances of doing so have improved with just about each one of those deals, but to add ?200 million worth of talent to a title-winning squad should have been a guarantee that just about every weakness, short-term and long-term, was addressed. That has not been the case.
Much has been made of United's defensive deficiencies, particularly since Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra departed this summer, and the lack of steel and energy in midfield. There have also been growing concerns about the lack of chemistry between Mata, Rooney and Robin van Persie in attack. Whether the way forward under Van Gaal is 3-4-1-2, 4-3-1-2, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, it is not easy to discern a consistency of vision in United's transfer policy, even in the four months since they sacked David Moyes.
Then there is the knock-on effect of this outlay. United have always prided themselves on developing their own young players. Ferguson, while bemoaning others' tendency to "pay stupid money and silly salaries", spoke two years ago of United's dedication to preserving a home-grown core within the team and squad. Even if Tom Cleverley and Danny Welbeck are hardly of the class of David Beckham or Paul Scholes, it feels as if something might have been lost in the rush to clear the decks to make way for a vanity signing or two.
When Ferguson spoke of other clubs spending "stupid money", he was talking about City's deals to signs, among others, Yaya Tour?, David Silva and Sergio Ag?ero.Now, suddenly, City, Chelsea and others hear of the figures that United are offering for Shaw, Di Mar?a and Falcao and they leave them alone to get on with their business.No doubt they preferred the days when the Glazers were sucking United dry, but not too many of this summer's deals will cause sleepless nights at the Etihad Stadium or at Stamford Bridge, where they know very well that spending wildly does not guarantee success.
