Star Citizen Online - The search for more money
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Del
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I'm actually glad someone who believes this game is a money laundering front thinks that. Glass houses and all that.
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Del
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Lol no they aren't. Most early access games are in an alpha state and are not even close to feature complete.
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Del
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Srathor
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Fortnite.
11 years in dev. Before early access. Made billions. Has it even released yet? Officially?
Scam Citizen is a case study of feature creep, and a dude that is running nekkid with his hair on fire towrds some moving goalposts screaming that he is gonna make it.
But he can't stop.
He is going the distance.
11 years in dev. Before early access. Made billions. Has it even released yet? Officially?
Scam Citizen is a case study of feature creep, and a dude that is running nekkid with his hair on fire towrds some moving goalposts screaming that he is gonna make it.
But he can't stop.
He is going the distance.
Lumi
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Huh? Ark went into early access in mid 2015 and only earned 2 million and was fully released August 2017. Terrible example.
There is ZERO chance there isn't some shady shit going on with this game. You have to be an absolute moron to believe otherwise. Is it money laundering? Is it embezzlement? Just straight up fraud? Hard to say for sure but it's absolutely at least one of the above.
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It had over 6 million sales by 2016 alone and was already releasing DLC a year before it left "EA". It even left "EA" early because of all the backlash it got for selling DLC in an unfinished state. The game ran like shit for quite a while. Pretty sure there wasn't any example you would have accepted. Not that it matters because Star Citizen could be 100% unique in what it's doing and it still wouldn't mean shit. I'm sure it's far easier to launder on a shitty F2P game from a small studio, and it would be a retarded decision to employ 500+ people for a fucking money laundering operation.
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Lumi
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Ok and you're comparing 6 million to a game that was atleast actually playable to a game that still is barely playable and has earned nearly 100 that amount and started production 4 years earlier. You're sounding like Nirgon with Pantheon. Think about that dude, nearly a billion dollars and 12 years and still a shell of a game and you seriously don't think something shady is going on? Are you on crack? Lol.
Del
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6 million x $60 is 1% of $500 million? Nice math retard.
I just hope that everyone who believes this game is a money laundering front realizes that they now share the same quality of reasoning as Lumi.
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Lumi
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Well I thought you meant 6 million dollars in sales, you didn't specify copies. I also said 1/10th not 1%. Also, Ark was 30 not 60 and only became 60 around the official release. Regardless, for less money and nearly half of SCs production time it has a fuck ton more to show for it you complete fucking moron. How much does your stupid ass have invested in this exactly?
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How much money have they suckered out of you you "invested", del?
I love your argument though. It's not possible that they are doing something nefarious with the what, half a billion they've swindled out of "investors". They are just incompetent. Literally the most incompetent people to have ever walked this earth. This is so far beyond feature creep, its beyond even scope creep. In order to accurately design spaceships they're actually building rockets and shooting them in to space so the animators can accurately depict thrust and propulsion in a video game. that's what the last 100million was spent on. And your dumbass is in here defending it.
This is like reverse Pantheon. Instead of wasting the piddling amount of cash raised after their failed kickstarter on dirt bikes and percocet they are wasting it on....well not sure. But they are making enough money to snort an 8ball of cocaine a day, 365 days a year x 500 "employees" and still have enough left over for a mansion or 10 to do it in. And that's at street prices. if they are buying by the kilo they have enough money to buy a small non-extradition island to do it on.
If it came out that it was just Chris Roberts and 499 whores doing blow all day every day in some mansion in Florida I would applaud. At least then I would know where the money is going.
I love your argument though. It's not possible that they are doing something nefarious with the what, half a billion they've swindled out of "investors". They are just incompetent. Literally the most incompetent people to have ever walked this earth. This is so far beyond feature creep, its beyond even scope creep. In order to accurately design spaceships they're actually building rockets and shooting them in to space so the animators can accurately depict thrust and propulsion in a video game. that's what the last 100million was spent on. And your dumbass is in here defending it.
This is like reverse Pantheon. Instead of wasting the piddling amount of cash raised after their failed kickstarter on dirt bikes and percocet they are wasting it on....well not sure. But they are making enough money to snort an 8ball of cocaine a day, 365 days a year x 500 "employees" and still have enough left over for a mansion or 10 to do it in. And that's at street prices. if they are buying by the kilo they have enough money to buy a small non-extradition island to do it on.
If it came out that it was just Chris Roberts and 499 whores doing blow all day every day in some mansion in Florida I would applaud. At least then I would know where the money is going.
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Del
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I love that you retards assume that I have money in this game just because I'm pointing out the lunacy in claiming that it's a money laundering front. Nowhere have I expressed that I even play this game.
I can't imagine how middle aged people can still act like fanboys. Grow up, dorks.
I can't imagine how middle aged people can still act like fanboys. Grow up, dorks.
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Lumi
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We're just trying to wrap our heads around how you can be such an absolute fucking moron. A game that's literally been in development since 2010 and has raised almost 700 million dollars and yet has so little to show for it. Definitely nothing shady going on though! Totally! Fucking A you're dumb lol.
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Del
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No, you're trying to justify your ignorance because you believe everything is a conspiracy, combined with your raging over the game you wanted 10 years ago still isn't finished. The only morons here are the people who continue to cry when any well adjusted person would have never put money into this in the first place and wouldn't give a shit that it's still in development.
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I don't know finance but as a layman a plausible money laundering scheme looks like:
1. Investor donates $$$ to CIG by going through some "individual donator" pipeline such that they are reported as crowd sourced $$$.
2. Some portion of their publicly disclosed staff: Development team are either fictional or are actually paid less than what they report or are tied to the investor.
3. The $$$ being paid out as costs are driven back to the investor after being cleaned
I don't reallllly buy into the money laundering scheme because it's just too public. My conspiracy theory is that there is big investment $$$ propping up the costs and that investment money is being described as individual donations to help attract more individual donations or other investors. Eventually the bottom will fall out and everything will vanish overnight because the cost to keep the servers on will exceed anything potential return on investment.
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This thread in a nutshell:
1. News is posted about them raking in mega dollars.
2. Discussion about whether this is a money laundering scheme or a game with a long dev time.
3. One or two pictures or videos are posted showing of some cool space scapes or buggy shit.
4. Thread dies down and goes into hibernation for 3 months.
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1. News is posted about them raking in mega dollars.
2. Discussion about whether this is a money laundering scheme or a game with a long dev time.
3. One or two pictures or videos are posted showing of some cool space scapes or buggy shit.
4. Thread dies down and goes into hibernation for 3 months.
5. Go to 1.
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