Star Citizen Online - The search for more money

Yeah I don't even know what Draegan was saying. Draegan, put the phone down bro.

Kriptini, I'm not sure what your angle is on this so I'll assume it's schaedenfreude, which is an angle I frequently share in. Even though I look forward to a legitimate Star Citizen game you can bet that if this thing ends in disaster I will be cashing in on the fallout from the 5+ figure 'investors' like I did the2012 election(Where the GOP was confident they'd win until the bitter end). However, I think you're jumping the gun here.

You're taking a few confusing bits of information, building up a shaky theory from them and then running with it as evidence that the shit is failing. You're premature bro, you have to wait until it does fail and the most staunch supporters recognize the failure. You're going to the bookie before the fight saying, "I KNOW who is going to win, let me cash in my enjoyment from misery chips!". When you do this you don't look like the one sane guy pushing away the koolaid, you look like the guy on the street corner saying the end is near!

Wait you mean people are just realizing that they are scammed on a majority of Kickstarters where you do not receive profit sharing and "pay for product" in advance as you get suckered in to make a ton of money for the company/man not backing any of the financials (Or very little) on their own?

NO way.

Here is an idea, quit giving money to kickstarter projects. People will succeed with a new idea and force themselves through the pain of financing and hardships on their own (making them 100000% more accountable for their actions throughout the process) and it will result in a much higher end product/service. When it isn't their money on the line, they could give two shits.

This message is brought to you by the new Utnayan news show "Capitalism and Common sense". Hey I should start a kickstarter for that. A New Internet show. You guys can all fund my beer drinking and snacks, I'll post on the internet about how not to be a moron with your money or get taken advantage of once a week.

$10 - Tier 1 - "A white piece of paper ripped from a mead notebook with "You are a moron. Thanks for your $10" written in Blue Marker.
$20 - Tier 2 - The same as above. Placed in a $.94 aluminum picture frame.

Utnayan_sl said:

Here is an idea, quit giving money to kickstarter projects. People will succeed with a new idea and force themselves through the pain of financing and hardships on their own (making them 100000% more accountable for their actions throughout the process) and it will result in a much higher end product/service. When it isn't their money on the line, they could give two shits.

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I don't know about accountability, really. Brad and VG finally had the funding spigot turned off on them, but not before they had bellied up to the funding bar with aplomb. And Brad still was given a chance back at SOE, but I still haven't heard a definitive description of why he left (Smed wasn't happy with his performance, Brad didn't want to stay because he wanted to make EQ1 2.0, etc etc etc).

There are probably a number of other non-Kickstarter examples where people weren't really held accountable and still flit about the industry like Lead Dev hobos, but I can't think of anything else right now.

I would agree with not giving KS funds to MMOs specifically (too risky) and only giving to reputable studios and developers. There does seem to be a lot of grey area for me though.

Draegan_sl said:

No one is mad about the kickstarter or really cares.
Seriously who the fuck sides with dmart.

/racistphone

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I always kinda hoped that Derek would surprise everyone and release some genre-redefining game that would blow us all out of the water and make him a billionaire.

It wasn't a realistic hope whatsoever, but oh well.

What jurisdiction does the SEC have that would enable them to ban crowdfunding?