Superman: Legacy (2025)

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DC comics has tried making Mr. Terrific a thing repeatedly. hes just too boring. much of it is likely due to "black super genius" #13231, who has no flaws, because you can't write a black man with flaws.

Good Luck I guess. people liked him in this. I haven't seen this, so not sure what was different this time.
 
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Homsar

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DC comics has tried making Mr. Terrific a thing repeatedly. hes just too boring. much of it is likely due to "black super genius" #13231, who has no flaws, because you can't write a black man with flaws.

Good Luck I guess. people liked him in this. I haven't seen this, so not sure what was different this time.
Are you sure you're not mixing him up with cyborg? Cyborg is the one they've been doing that with for the last 20 years. They literally created Cyborg as person with every power possible
 
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DC comics has tried making Mr. Terrific a thing repeatedly. hes just too boring. much of it is likely due to "black super genius" #13231, who has no flaws, because you can't write a black man with flaws.

Good Luck I guess. people liked him in this. I haven't seen this, so not sure what was different this time.

He was kind of like a superhero version of Shaft. Just a cool kick ass character with a 70s vibe, same with Guy Gardner. It's a shame we didn't get some cool 70s music to go with them like he did with Star Lord. He didn't really seem over powered, just had some neat gadgets.
 
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DC comics has tried making Mr. Terrific a thing repeatedly. hes just too boring. much of it is likely due to "black super genius" #13231, who has no flaws, because you can't write a black man with flaws.

Good Luck I guess. people liked him in this. I haven't seen this, so not sure what was different this time.
nothing, he's just a dude like in a chair (but not actually) with little orb drones? he looks like an autistic retard. he only has 1 fight scene and a 20 second montage at the end, not sure how anyone considers him or guy gardner as somehow stealing the show they have like 9 minutes of total airtime between them.

The dog has more airtime than any other character other than superman, and superman spends the entire film getting his ass kicked by his own retarded clone.
 

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Wouldn’t shock me at this point as this one has shown legs. Will go past its budget box office wise this weekend and will probably hit 100 mill international. With a quick turn around into PVOD it’s pretty much a sucesss for WB which is all it needed to be after the disaster at the end of the previous universe

F4 has the nebulous 200+ million but no specific number budget which means it ate money by the truck load during reshoot. If it doesn’t hit 600ww I bet it’s a loss for Disney
I don't care how woke it is, F4 is one of those comics no one really cared to talk about so it's a hard thing to adapt.

Its funny how the characters that people did like they are doing 180% on. Im not saying it's true but Sue is main character with the kid and Johnny is now sensative from everything I've heard
 
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Looks like a 53% drop this weekend, which is really good for these tentpole films. MoS was 65% by comparison.
 
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yeah it looks like its doing decent 2nd weekend, looks closer to 55% drop, almost as good as Deadpool and Wolverine (54% drop) but it still suffers from a weak opening and lukewarm overseas. 45% of not a whole lot is still not a lot.

still on track for 500-550 WW unless fantastic 4skins really shits the bed (or the opposite, way overperforms). Not much on the horizon afterwards, maybe naked gun remake? summer is basically over and all we got was a Jurrassic world 42 sequel
 

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I dunno, there was never an actual confirm on the end of the message. Just a confirm that Lex altered the translation cause plot points. Super never did go back through it to confirm after the fact. Just plot shit.
Just in case you missed me my dunking on you earlier even Gunn thinks you are a retarded faggot for this cope filled take:



"How can someone not think it's real? I don't understand. In the test screenings people said, 'With AI, no one trusts anything.' So, okay, in the movie Mister Terrific says, 'I know those computer forensics guys, there is no way.' That's Mister Terrific, he's as smart as Lex Luthor. Then I have Mori, the Secretary of Defense, say, 'Think whatever you think about Luthor, but it's real.' And then the clincher is that Ghurkos and Lex are walking together and Ghurkos say, 'Ahh you doctored the message. This is great.' And Lex says, 'It's not doctored. It's real, and who thought it would be his own parents to bring him down?'"
 
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on sat superman was at $217m which passed cap falcon total domestic take of $200m and is only $13m behind it worldwide total.
don't watch a lot of tv, but saw a few ads of superman and none for f4. will see how hard they push it this week. superman had spend a fuck ton. for like 3 weeks, every time i saw my parent's echo is was showing a pic of krypto. think it was on my roku tvs for almost 2 weeks too.
 

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Between Covid, the strikes, and the rise of VOD and especially streaming services, the cinema industry has been significantly altered. It's _possible_ all those kids that still go to movies for animated movies _might_ go back to the theatres as adults, but if they do, that's years down the line.

So if we look at just the post-covid DOMESTIC numbers for Marvel and DC, the results tend to clump into three bands:

Movies that start at $180M+ and end above $400M, which were profitable (barring covid / strike shutdown costs applying to the movie).
Middleground movies that started around $120M and ended well above $300M, and were mildly profitable, but not so that the studios are rushing sequels into production.
The also-rans, which made $100M or less to start and barely topped $200M. If they were profitable, it was only because of outside factors like heavy tax breaks. Odds are we won't see a direct sequel to any of these movies, barring 'rehabilitation' in a team-up movie like (possibly) Shang-Chi.
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Again, if you look at the multipliers, they tend to match the relative general audience view of the movie - the one exception being some afterthoughts starring minority leads, which legitimately do get better multipliers than usual (Blue Beetle's 2.9, Aquaman's 4.5!), but the initial values are so weak it doesn't move the needle.

At this point I think Superman clearly belongs in the middlegound tier, though we'll see where it ends up below or between Thor 4 and GotG 3.

As to Fantastic Four? I just don't see it, but all the box office tracking suggests it will indeed open above Cap Falcon. I think we're looking at another Dr Strange 2 or Ant-Man 3, which fade hard after the initial week. As much as I think the 60s setting scares off the kids, box office takes don't care about demographics, and there could be a bunch of oldsters buying tickets the first weekend then a graveyard after. Cue 'Marvel in trouble? FF4's third week falls behind Superman's fifth week' articles in Variety or Deadline now.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't really give a pickled pig dick how much a money makes and only really cares if it's enjoyable to watch? I've never been like OMG this thing has made X dollars I really need to see this motherfucker.
 
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Took my kid and her bestie for my second viewing. They loved it which is surprising since they usually hate everything.
 
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Am I the only one who doesn't really give a pickled pig dick how much a money makes and only really cares if it's enjoyable to watch?
To be clear, other than hoping that movies made by creatives I like do well enough that they get money for another project, I am not rooting for or against the box office returns of any movie.

But at the same time, it's inarguable that the (especially aggregate) data does factor into which projects studios decide to fund, and if to the budgets and fx levels we're accustomed to.

And let's be honest - the overall box office has dropped to the point that many of these movies are just not worth making anymore, and it is unclear if audiences will accept TV-budget projects.
 
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