And world wide sales have them *dead even* in hardware (both at about 77 million) with the PS3 usually slightly ahead. You are so hilariously bad at this.
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Gaige
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I've played PC games since 2000. I understand all about the huge difference in hardware and what it means. I also understand that devs code for the lowest common denominator like I said. Do you think they code for my GTX 780 or for a middle of the road GPU? Do you think they code for my 32gb of ram or for 8? Do you think 2560x1440 is their main concern or 1680x1050 and 1920x1080.
It isn't going to matter. In the games where there are differences they will be minor differences that you won't even notice if not playing the games side by side or reading a review with blown up stills with pixels circled to show the better aliasing.
It's not like one of the consoles has Nvidia PhysX and the other doesn't.
I live in America. My friends do to. I don't give a fuck about worldwide sales, especially of games like Madden. I'm sure those worldwide numbers aren't skewed by Japan and Sony being a Japanese company.
Vaclav
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Gaige: To continue the PC analogy - on PC's since they share architecture (as XBox180 and PS4 will) they almost always include options or engine tweaks to adjust for the power of the machine in question because they're relatively trivial to add in - they're often ignored when things need to be ported to different architecture because it complicates the porting a ton more. But now that games basically will have almost zero porting (literally a difference of THREE instructions when it comes to the GPU rendering code) it's likely going to be trivial to toss in better resolution, AA, or whatever else to take advantage of hardware.
Additionally in this get we've seen that developers in some cases are willing to have a title run 20 fps on one system and 30 fps on the other - I don't like gaming at 20 fps myself.
Additionally in this get we've seen that developers in some cases are willing to have a title run 20 fps on one system and 30 fps on the other - I don't like gaming at 20 fps myself.
Gaige
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Which I alluded to, sure. They usually amount to graphic quality that is unnoticeable though. Or playing at 100 fps instead of 60 fps. Mostly meaningless. I know because I try to keep my PC leading edge and most of the time (especially lately with all the console ports) it's mostly for naught.
True of the current generation between PC and Xbox 360 and we see which system suffers. The PC.
You clearly do not understand scalable engines and adjustable options (like Draw Distance, AA, AF, Ambient Occlusion, Tessellation, Shadows, Lighting, Texture quality, Resolution, etc). That's okay, there's no point in discussing it since you're stupid enough to think that they'll simply plop code from one onto another. There'salwaysplatform specific optimizations (just like there's ATI and Nvidia specific optimizations).
And the world does matter, and in theentire rest of the worldthe PS3 outsells the X360 - not just Japan (America is not the center of the universe). The X360 didn't dominate this generation, by any stretch of the imagination, except in Call of Duty sales. This is all totally irrelevant anyways, because as past history shows, even total domination like the PS2 era meansabsolutely nothing.
#1 selling platform of all time - PS2: NA - 53.65, Europe - 55.28, Japan - 23.18, Rest of the World - 25.57. Total: 157.68.
That, sir, is "Domination."
#8 - PS3: NA - 26.75, Europe - 31.01, Japan - 9.33, Rest of the World - 10.62. Total: 77.71.
#9 - X360: NA- 44.07, Europe - 24.24, Japan - 1.64, Rest of the World - 7.62. Total: 77.57.
Not what I would call "Domination" there.
Vaclav
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I enjoy debating people that are "wrong" - I guess it's a personality flaw.
Subjective - I can notice almost any option I flip on personally besides frame rate dips (until ~30 fps) - but I can notice AA even with just one grade of improvement myself - I do have exceptional vision however, so I don't know how the average shlub would compare on such - but there's very few graphic options that provide minimal benefit that I've screwed with.Gaige_sl said:
Additionally with staying bleeding edge you're going to hit diminishing returns the quickest since you're only comparing the top couple options - PS4 and XBoxOne comparisons are like comparing a high end (although not topend) card in the current lines to a midrange one from how people like Anand are talking about it. And there's absolute differences that you can toss into settings that will bring a mid 7xxx series to its knees while a 7870 isn't even breaking a sweat that are quite noticeable.
Gaige
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People choose the path of least resistance. It's proven. You can look right now at this generation and see it clear as day. You're just wishing that PS4's better hardware equates to better gameplay, but at this point and considering history it's just a wish.
Ya, what am I thinking... 18 million more sales in the country where I live and play. Doesn't even matter! Not to mention according to your own list Xbox 360 is the second biggest seller behind PS2 in NA sales!
Sure, mostly related to resolution though. Not an issue with consoles. You're just putting a lot of trust in developers to take the extra time to make PS4 games look hand over fist better than Xbox 360 and I doubt that happens.
Vaclav
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Sean: Additionally I wonder how many of each of the systems in those sales were replacements for RROD and YLOD - since we know that 360's reliability left something to be desired for quite a while there - YLOD wondering included for fairness since PS3 did fail sometimes, although not as frequently from my understanding (3/3 for 360 failures to 0/2 on PS3 besides my cats pushing one onto hardwood personally).
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C'mon now, we are weeks ahead of the trend.'Xbox 180' is trending on Twitter.
Definitely a better name than 'Xbox One'.
Vaclav
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http://www.cuttingedgegamer.com/Grap...rds/index.html- I'm sure he could afford a $70/mo lease even if the full upfront was an issue for him. They're a ripoff for most people, but I've got a ton of cheapass friends that swear by doing their "lease to own" nonsense.
You're still completely 100% wrong about the hardware and know nothing, Pedo-Gaige.
And the PS2 had far more than both the X360/PS3 in NA. It did not ensure Sony's dominance in NA at all. Guess what? They fucked up and they paid the price for it. Microsoft has fucked up and they will pay the price for it.
You will be in the minority on the Xbone even in North America.
How is liking something that 90% of people do over another item make me a hipster?
I'm fucking confused. Shouldn't it be hipster to like the Xbone, since people don't like it? Isn't that how being a hipster works?
I'm a conformist sheeple if anything.
I'm fucking confused. Shouldn't it be hipster to like the Xbone, since people don't like it? Isn't that how being a hipster works?
I'm a conformist sheeple if anything.
Sulrn
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Stopped reading for about 30 pages...
We still doing the PS4 circle jerk thing or is there still valid discussion occasionally?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22980973
180 is official.
We still doing the PS4 circle jerk thing or is there still valid discussion occasionally?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22980973
180 is official.
LachiusTZ
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Maybe "metro" would have been a better fit, but "hipster" just felt right.
Honestly, I still wont be buying either console. Lol
Kind of sad considering I have owned almost every console produced en masse. Even spent a year or 2 in college playing a 2600. Fuck, maybe I'm the hipster.
Honestly, I still wont be buying either console. Lol
Kind of sad considering I have owned almost every console produced en masse. Even spent a year or 2 in college playing a 2600. Fuck, maybe I'm the hipster.
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I am keeping my PS4 preorder without question. I went from never on the Xbone to well, let's see how that TV functionality turns out. If it is as good as advertised (doubtful) then I'll pick one up after a price drop or two, assuming my TV doesn't already have all that functionality (probably will).
Also, Gaige is a fucktard.
Also, Gaige is a fucktard.