The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

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Commander Vimeseh_sl said:
I hope Brady and his lawyer absolutely destroy Goodell on this. I could give two shits about what happens to Brady, but Goodell has fumbled almost every major issue over the last year and is somehow becoming even worse as time goes on. He needs to go.
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Yeah, I mean, the nfl states it dropped its tax exemption status because "it was a distraction". Well then its time to drop Goodell too. The audience booing every time he walks out on stage to annouce a draft selection, while hilarious, is not good for the nfl product.
 
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Well Brady has gone all in on this. Goodell now pretty much has to make this stick or the other owners who pressed for this will roast him alive and he will be done. If he were smart, he would have made the punishment for conduct detrimental to the league for covering up. As it stands, if this goes to a neutral arbitration person then hello spygate 2.0 whitewash. I do find it interesting that Brady is lawyering up and going Full Armstrong, but the Cheatriots themselves have not made a peep about fighting the punishment.

Also, LOL at the fans paying the fine. Pretty much sums up Massivetwoshits fans in a microcosm. That sort of thing might make sense for a team that is publicly owned, like GB. But I am pretty sure Kraft can pay that fine with an ATM card.
 
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The organization said they'll take whatever punishment the NFL gives them. They knew they cheated and got caught and deserve all punishment they receive. They should just be lucky they weren't stripped of the SB win.
 
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Phazael_sl said:
Well Brady has gone all in on this. Goodell now pretty much has to make this stick or the other owners who pressed for this will roast him alive and he will be done. If he were smart, he would have made the punishment for conduct detrimental to the league for covering up. As it stands, if this goes to a neutral arbitration person then hello spygate 2.0 whitewash. I do find it interesting that Brady is lawyering up and going Full Armstrong, but the Cheatriots themselves have not made a peep about fighting the punishment.

Also, LOL at the fans paying the fine. Pretty much sums up Massivetwoshits fans in a microcosm. That sort of thing might make sense for a team that is publicly owned, like GB. But I am pretty sure Kraft can pay that fine with an ATM card.
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Well Kraft made this statement

It Is What It Is

The read between the lines there is "fuck this bullshit punishment". When owners of rival teams even admit the punishment was too harsh, that says something. Goodell is just trying to use this to razzledazzle people and make them forget he gave rapists, PED users, and wife/child beaters a less severe punishment.
 
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popsicledeath_sl said:
People keep saying Brady is a known/proven cheater. What else has he been busted on? Or people just generally saying Pats are cheaters so obviously Brady is too? Pats have always pushed the bounds, but even spygate was pretty anti-climatic when you looked at the actual facts/situation. I don't follow the Pats that well, what else have they done?
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I believe you are referring to what I said and you should be aware that we were talking about the penalty on the team (and lack of penalty on the coach). The pats are habitual cheaters. Belicheat is a habitual cheater. Brady might be guilty by association, but I didn't say he had priors.
 
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Sutekh_sl said:
They should just be lucky they weren't stripped of the SB win.
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Well, cheating is something you have to stomp on. At the end of the day, rapists, child/wife beaters, and so on still entertain people on the field and add to the "any given sunday" mystique. If it ever looks like people are looking the other way with cheating, then the fans break faith and it starts to degenerate into the equivalent of professional wrestling. The off field conduct stuff and PED use SHOULD be punished more, no doubt, but nothing loses fan confidence faster than letting cheating slide, especially if it is a team at the top of the game. One is reminded of how tarnished baseball became by the roid scandals and how long it took to recover from that (if the game even has). When you have a group of people constantly on the shady side of stuff, while winning championships, then this is your best chance to make an example out of them to discourage others from pulling the same shit.
 
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Phazael_sl said:
Well, cheating is something you have to stomp on. At the end of the day, rapists, child/wife beaters, and so on still entertain people on the field and add to the "any given sunday" mystique. If it ever looks like people are looking the other way with cheating, then the fans break faith and it starts to degenerate into the equivalent of professional wrestling. The off field conduct stuff and PED use SHOULD be punished more, no doubt, but nothing loses fan confidence faster than letting cheating slide, especially if it is a team at the top of the game. One is reminded of how tarnished baseball became by the roid scandals and how long it took to recover from that (if the game even has). When you have a group of people constantly on the shady side of stuff, while winning championships, then this is your best chance to make an example out of them to discourage others from pulling the same shit.
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Not football. People absolutely will forgive players on roids. Means he wants to really win! They will forgive their player for beating his wife, because he needed to release frustration for playing like crap Sunday. You forgive the guy on cocaine because he is enjoying his success!

Nothing in football is tangible. Except Super Bowl championships. No one gives a fuck about stats in football. Maybe a couple of the big ones...and only those because it meant that player was winning.

Fucks sake...Peterson beat his kid so bad the marks were there for a week. Dallas wants this man because he is damn good.

Baseball is so stat driven, that anything that effects those stats is evil. That's why people hate Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod. Not because they took steroids, but because they fucked with the sacred statistics. They pissed on the baseball bible.
 
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Brahma_sl said:
Not football. People absolutely will forgive players on roids. Means he wants to really win! They will forgive their player for beating his wife, because he needed to release frustration for playing like crap Sunday. You forgive the guy on cocaine because he is enjoying his success!

Nothing in football is tangible. Except Super Bowl championships. No one gives a fuck about stats in football. Maybe a couple of the big ones...and only those because it meant that player was winning.

Fucks sake...Peterson beat his kid so bad the marks were there for a week. Dallas wants this man because he is damn good.

Baseball is so stat driven, that anything that effects those stats is evil. That's why people hate Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod. Not because they took steroids, but because they fucked with the sacred statistics. They pissed on the baseball bible.
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Uhh..

Refer to the picture you posted earlier, because this is one of the dumbest fucking posts I've ever read on this forum.

Who the fuck have you been talking to that says someone taking PEDs was just trying to win or someone beating their spouse was just releasing anger from the game, so it's ok? Holy fuck my head hurts from this level of stupidity.

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You REALLY think, they would strip a SB champion? Really?

2 sports you listed NO ONE gives a fuck about. They stripped USC because it was a co-national champion that year.
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Really, no one gives a shit about the fucking OLYMPICS. REALLY?

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Azeth_sl said:
well nobody with winning pro sports franchises within 100 miles of them does.

you obviously do.
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I lived in Pittsburgh for 10 years and still cared about the Olympics.

Maybe I should have took the Azeth approach and started to follow the Steelers after their SB win?
 
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Sutekh_sl said:
I lived in Pittsburgh for 10 years and still cared about the Olympics.

Maybe I should have took the Azeth approach and started to follow the Steelers after their SB win?
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Says this like I didn't play catch with Andre Tippett on foxborough field in 1990

Give us moar retard sutekh
 
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It's Foxboro Stadium.

I doubt you even existed in 1990 let alone were able to play catch with a linebacker?
 
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Sutekh_sl said:
Uhh..

Refer to the picture you posted earlier, because this is one of the dumbest fucking posts I've ever read on this forum.

Who the fuck have you been talking to that says someone taking PEDs was just trying to win or someone beating their spouse was just releasing anger from the game, so it's ok? Holy fuck my head hurts from this level of stupidity.



Really, no one gives a shit about the fucking OLYMPICS. REALLY?
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Fucks sake...Who the fuck won the gold medal in the down hill whateverthefuck in skiing in 2000 whatever. Who gives a fuck. I can't even tell you who was on the last "Dream Team" in USA basketball. Cause it's the fuckin Olympics. But I can tell you who won the last 10 NBA, NFL and NHL championships. (Ok...not the NHL)

BUT you could rattle off the last 5 1st draft picks in the NFL if you tried. You DO live here right?

As for PED. Stop. Here in Boston David Ortiz was busted...People defended this dude to no end. Because he is a "good guy" and helped Boston win multiple championships. Every teams fan base forgives their players and makes excuses for said player for their transgressions.

Boston is bidding to get the Olympics here in whatever year it is. FUCK THAT BS. Know why? The Olympics isn't worth even fucking up my commute for two weeks. BUT if you were to tell me the SB was coming to town? I'd be out there with signs and pom poms asking the governor why the fuck isn't HE out here.
 
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