The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

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Phazael_sl said:
Packers have been proving for a while that its entirely possible to be good with a HoF QB and a shit Defense, especially if most of the weakness is concentrated in the line and not the secondary. Outside of White, none of the 90s era defensive players were anything memorable and Rodgers SB run was done with the lowest paid/youngest defensive roster in the league. The wheels come off when anyone stalls you, though, which is why even the Packers are starting to invest more in the trenches lately. You also get completely fucked if your QB gets hurt (see Packers this Sunday) to any degree.

But just look at Detroit. They had arguably the strongest D Line in football (and the stats to back it up) this season and even the Curse of Romo was not enough to give them a playoff win. Outside of Seattle and perhaps the Cheatriots (who are stronger in the secondary), most of the best defenses are watching next weekend's games on TV. In fact, outside of Seattle, none of the remaining teams are even in the top ten for total defense and that's even with all of them having nearly all divisional opponents with some of the worst offenses in the league.

Now Seattle is the lone exception and I am afraid to say probably the odds on favorite to win it all at this point, but roiding up and pumping miked crowd noise into the opposing bench will make a great defense basically unstoppable. Just ask the late 90s Vikings. For Seattle to actually lose, however, is going to require a QB having the balls to test Sherman and a ref willing to throw the flag when he is dry humping the receiver all the way down the field. Rogers has the accuracy to do it, but I don't think McCarthy will let him. Brady has the will and permission of Coach Vader, but his accuracy drops when pressured and Seattle will throw the kitchen sink at them. I am also fairly confident that the refs are going to be extremely hesitant to call holding or PI for the rest of the post season, given all the Cowboy drama. So Seattle's SB to lose at this point, pretty much.
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maybe i misread, but Rodgers is a HoF QB - why're you comparing him to Cutler?

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Fox to CHI is a really boring move. The guy is an OK coach, but CHI is in a division where the only prayer that they have is to get a defense that really murders people like SF, Balt, or SEA has. Cutler is never going to be great, at most he is a guy who can game manage a bit and score some points if there isn't much pressure on him, at worst he is a bum and on his way out of town. In both cases D is the only way you have a prayer in the next 5 years of seeing a title over GB who destroys you on offense or DET whose D is way better than yours and atleast has a semi functional offense. Rex would have been the best guy for them by far imo.
 
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Phazael_sl said:
Well one thing Jimmy Mac had was swagger and leadership. He might have been a mediocre QB at best, but he did bring confidence to that team. Cutler, on the other hand, has arm strength and ability, but inspires absolutely no one.
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I don't buy this style of thought. Eli Manning wasn't running up and down the sidelines, firing people up on the way to two Super Bowls. How many times this season can you recall seeing a QB really getting his rally cap on? Rivers has a ton of passion, how's that working out?
 
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Technically, John Fox's history is as a defensive coach, and the Bears certainly need help on that side.

But yeah, the NFC North is no picnic to rebuild in - and I'm honestly not sure the Vikings aren't the second best team in the division even before the 2015 regular season is over.
 
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Fox will be serviceable, but I'm tired of just being an okay or serviceable team. I mean if that's what the bears wanted then they should never have fired lovie. Could have had another decade of alternating 7-9 to 9-7 records with the occasional playoff run.

Not looking forward to be a last place team for the next three or four years.
 
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Phazael_sl said:
Now Seattle is the lone exception and I am afraid to say probably the odds on favorite to win it all at this point, but roiding up and pumping miked crowd noise into the opposing bench will make a great defense basically unstoppable. Just ask the late 90s Vikings. For Seattle to actually lose, however, is going to require a QB having the balls to test Sherman and a ref willing to throw the flag when he is dry humping the receiver all the way down the field. Rogers has the accuracy to do it, but I don't think McCarthy will let him. Brady has the will and permission of Coach Vader, but his accuracy drops when pressured and Seattle will throw the kitchen sink at them. I am also fairly confident that the refs are going to be extremely hesitant to call holding or PI for the rest of the post season, given all the Cowboy drama. So Seattle's SB to lose at this point, pretty much.
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Seattle doesn't pump in sound and Arrowhead has the noise record. They are loud but people are just butt hurt because they are a good team.
 
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Chanur_sl said:
Seattle doesn't pump in sound and Arrowhead has the noise record. They are loud but people are just butt hurt because they are a good team.
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I think it has a lot to do with the architecture of the stadium too, but i agree it's not artificial
 
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Phazael_sl said:
Outside of White, none of the 90s era defensive players were anything memorable.
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Are you even a fan of the Packers? From 93-98ish they were top 5 in points allowed or yds allowed every year. They were the number 1 defense in the NFL in '96. Reggie White was probably the greatest DE to ever play the game, sure, but you still had guys like Santana Dotson, LeRoy Butler, Seth Joyner, and big ass Gilbert Brown. The 90s era Packers defenses weren't memorable? Please..
 
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Azeth_sl said:
I think it has a lot to do with the architecture of the stadium too, but i agree it's not artificial
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Yeah but it is really fun to go to a sports bar in the PNW and accuse them of pumping in sound. Especially if it is full of est. 2012 fans.
 
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Kirun_sl said:
Are you even a fan of the Packers? From 93-98ish they were top 5 in points allowed or yds allowed every year. They were the number 1 defense in the NFL in '96. Reggie White was probably the greatest DE to ever play the game, sure, but you still had guys like Santana Dotson, LeRoy Butler, Seth Joyner, and big ass Gilbert Brown. The 90s era Packers defenses weren't memorable? Please..
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Are any of those guys aside from White in the HOF? Butler deserves to be but isn't. And the packers weren't even the best D in our own division back then. Are you even a Miners fan? If you were you'd recall our D getting burnt repeatedly by your team with Young or the Cowboys. Just ask any Packer fan about the Rams game or 4th and 26....
 
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Fox historically has been able to coach defenses to an above average level at minimum. That shouldn't cover his complete passivity as a coach when it comes to tactics. Combined with Gase being hired as the GM makes this pretty underwhelming in my mind if Fox is ultimately hired.

As far as Cutler, Barnwell brought up how trading him to Buffalo now that Rex is there wouldn't be a horrible idea for either team. Though if we hire Fox I can't see that happening as he wouldn't be going there for a total rebuild on both sides of the ball.
 
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Lots of Ravens fans pinning their hopes on Kubiak NOT wanting to deal with that. The guy almost killed himself head coaching the Texans. Now he's going to take a rebuilding job with who knows what at QB or maybe a questionable Manning??? Either way you're looking at a fuck ton of FA and roster questions from trying to buy into a quick ring or two during Peyton's window.

Rumor is he's building a house in the Baltimore area too, but I'm not sure where that's coming from. Seems like a better job for a young first timer looking for experience (like Gase) who can bounce back from a two to three year stint that ends in firing. And not to be too much of a homer, but wouldn't it seem like looking at it right now the Ravens would be a more likely place to get a ring than Denver?
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Seems like he is gone if they offer him the job.
 
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Yeah so now we just sit here and hope either he's leaving Dennison behind for us to promote, or no one hires Kyle Shanahan since he was our next choice last year before we signed Kubes. Fucking Ravens, nothing is ever simple even the offseason.
 
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Actually now I'm reading we might have Dennison under a contract that blocks him from leaving for anything other than a HC gig. Not sure that's the best way to have him calling our plays though.
 
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Big Jerr won Nfl executive of the year. Yup, we now live in a world where that is a thing.
 
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