The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

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Enjoy what you have wrought 49ers. They were talking about San Francisco on Sirius last night and said the 49ers have a talented roster which is true. They also said they have spent the last couple years in Seattles shadow because they are just better. Enjoy more years of this with the attitude of Superbowl win or bust.
Yeah, it is so frustrating. It's like they completely forgot what the previous 10+ seasons were like before Harbaugh got there. Tomsula may very well be a good coach, but Fangio is the only reason that team finished as well as it did. Should have promoted him to HC, and brought in a new OC. Oh well. At least I will have really low expectations going into next year, even with a still decently loaded roster.
 

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Yeah, it is so frustrating. It's like they completely forgot what the previous 10+ seasons were like before Harbaugh got there. Tomsula may very well be a good coach, but Fangio is the only reason that team finished as well as it did. Should have promoted him to HC, and brought in a new OC. Oh well. At least I will have really low expectations going into next year, even with a still decently loaded roster.
You might get lucky sometimes change is good. I think the odds are against it though.
 

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You might get lucky sometimes change is good. I think the odds are against it though.
Well, the thing is, Harbaugh was never a "long-term" solution. And let's face it, unless you luck into a Belicheat type coach, nobody really is in today's NFL. We're in abetterspot than we were prior, but we're still not winning anything. This year proved that we might even be slowly gettingworse. It's better to start bailing water before the ship completely sinks, especially while we still have the talent present.

Having said that, I think it was probably a mistake to promote a position coach over a coordinator. I think Gase declined the 49ers offer and they went to Tomsula as the "safe" choice. I think Gase was the only guy they really evenconsideredhiring, all with the knowledge that Tomsula would be the "back-up" option should he decline. The players love him, he's agreeable to ownership/FO, and he's been with the team for 8 seasons. Mooch thinks that it was a great hire, so I'm willing to give him a chance before I want to see him strung up in the town square, but I am certainly tempering expectations next season. A lot of it is going to depend on who gets brought in as DC/OC.
 
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Match made in heaven for those two. The circus is coming to Chicago.
Son of a bitch. I mean yah it isn't some no name or first timer like the bears usually take as HC but what's the upside for the team. Never going for it, and just muddling along? The bears don't have the talent to compensate for his passive coaching style.
 

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I am subscribing to the "let it burn and blame it on Fox while we quietly rebuild after the Cutler Cap stops fucking us" school of thought on this one. The Bears are in a really rough situation. The Cutler contract is stifling and there is no way in hell Jay will restructure it, given how the team sat his ass on the pine (plus his general lack of motivation). The entire roster is mostly in need of retooling. Worse still, the division itself is nearly always among the toughest in the league and signs point to it being even worse than usual the next few seasons. Packers are pretty much dominant until Rodgers retires or gets killed. Detroit is always in the mix and Calwell has them looking more disciplined. The Vikings are looking really good with a lot of potential on both sides of the ball. Where does that leave the Bears at this point?

Chicago is in the same seat GB was back in the 80s. They are going to suck for a good long while, but their fanbase is super loyal so change is going to come very slowly. My prediction is that once Cutler's cap damage is finally over, the Bears will be a playoff contender in about roughly two years after that, but it won't be Fox coaching them. I expect it will be some up and coming college coach with piss and vinegar in their veins, like a Harbaugh or John Gruden type. They need some youth and ambition injected into their culture in the worst way. Fox is not that guy.

But as a Packer fan it is good for me I guess, I just see to see our favorite rivals fall on such hard times. The North was at its best when everyone was in the hunt.
 
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We've been bad for the last twenty years basically. Sure not Bengals, lions, redskins bad but still pretty bad. One super bowl, and a couple of playoff appearances. Missed the playoffs six of the seven last years. So kind of tired of rebuilding or being in mediocre limbo for another three to five years.
 
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I feel like unless you hit the jackpot on Manning Brady Luck etc you have to build from the D up.

Look at Seattle, even without Russell Wilson they're a tough playoff contender. With him they're champs. Offensive talent should be the last thing you build your core around.

Why do the Bears suck? Because Jay Cutler is supposed to carry the show. Name the last bears D lineman that was known league wide, or the last cornerback that was known like Sherman, Revis, or Patterson.
 

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Teams are built from the inside out. You start with the lines. Skill positions are blanks that can be filled in after the core.
 

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Why do the Bears suck? Because Jay Cutler is supposed to carry the show. Name the last bears D lineman that was known league wide, or the last cornerback that was known like Sherman, Revis, or Patterson.
Julius Peppers..... after he put on a Packer uniform.....
 

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That Clay hit was a cheap shot and I hope he gets fined out the ass for it. There is no place for cheap bullshit on the Packers team.
 
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I feel like unless you hit the jackpot on Manning Brady Luck etc you have to build from the D up.

Look at Seattle, even without Russell Wilson they're a tough playoff contender. With him they're champs. Offensive talent should be the last thing you build your core around.

Why do the Bears suck? Because Jay Cutler is supposed to carry the show. Name the last bears D lineman that was known league wide, or the last cornerback that was known like Sherman, Revis, or Patterson.
Tillman and peppers for two of them.

Bears fans know that our defense has been beyond horrible the last two seasons. Under lovie though we had a top ten defense for the better part of a decade. Still wasn't good enough though when Erik Kramer and Jim Miller are your two best quarterbacks between Jim McMahon and Jay Cutler. Realistically we haven't had a top two tier QB since Sid luckman, and my father wasn't even alive when he played.
 
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I just think it's logical to not be very good without a great defense when your best player is Jay Cutler.
 

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Well one thing Jimmy Mac had was swagger and leadership. He might have been a mediocre QB at best, but he did bring confidence to that team. Cutler, on the other hand, has arm strength and ability, but inspires absolutely no one.
 
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Well one thing Jimmy Mac had was swagger and leadership. He might have been a mediocre QB at best, but he did bring confidence to that team. Cutler, on the other hand, has arm strength and ability, but inspires absolutely no one.
Spot on. I was debating on using tomszak instead of him for a "good" QB from the eighties or early nineties but gave him the nod because he did win a super bowl.
 

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I just think it's logical to not be very good without a great defense when your best player is Jay Cutler.
Packers have been proving for a while that its entirely possible to be good with a HoF QB and a shit Defense, especially if most of the weakness is concentrated in the line and not the secondary. Outside of White, none of the 90s era defensive players were anything memorable and Rodgers SB run was done with the lowest paid/youngest defensive roster in the league. The wheels come off when anyone stalls you, though, which is why even the Packers are starting to invest more in the trenches lately. You also get completely fucked if your QB gets hurt (see Packers this Sunday) to any degree.

But just look at Detroit. They had arguably the strongest D Line in football (and the stats to back it up) this season and even the Curse of Romo was not enough to give them a playoff win. Outside of Seattle and perhaps the Cheatriots (who are stronger in the secondary), most of the best defenses are watching next weekend's games on TV. In fact, outside of Seattle, none of the remaining teams are even in the top ten for total defense and that's even with all of them having nearly all divisional opponents with some of the worst offenses in the league.

Now Seattle is the lone exception and I am afraid to say probably the odds on favorite to win it all at this point, but roiding up and pumping miked crowd noise into the opposing bench will make a great defense basically unstoppable. Just ask the late 90s Vikings. For Seattle to actually lose, however, is going to require a QB having the balls to test Sherman and a ref willing to throw the flag when he is dry humping the receiver all the way down the field. Rogers has the accuracy to do it, but I don't think McCarthy will let him. Brady has the will and permission of Coach Vader, but his accuracy drops when pressured and Seattle will throw the kitchen sink at them. I am also fairly confident that the refs are going to be extremely hesitant to call holding or PI for the rest of the post season, given all the Cowboy drama. So Seattle's SB to lose at this point, pretty much.