The Division 2

If you have Liberty at 440 I would definitely build Chatterbox now too. Then next Friday, you upgrade your bench to WT5, break down the Chatterbox for a exotic material, use that to upgrade Liberty to 490 (so you don't need another D50), then go farm the parts for Chatterbox quick and rebuild it too. Just make sure you have 10 or so Hyena keys ready to go.

In spronk 's case of having a 415 Merciless, you can just wait to craft Chatterbox next week and break down the Merciless to upgrade Liberty if you have it. Unless you bought the Ultimate edition in which case I think you could upgrade any GS250+ Merciless to a 450-490 Ruthless.

Crone said:

Thats what I asked and the general thought was that a min/maxed gs 450 dude was gonna be way better than a non min/maxed gs 500 dude.

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I don’t agree with that. 500 gs weapons should be a big jump and the additional stat caps on gear should power equal to or past a 450.

I just saw messing around with builds at 450 as useful information on what each armor perk does, how they could interact, and what does and doesn’t work as a cohesive gathering of stats.

I’m underwhelmed by the 3 sets we’re being offered at WT5 if Marco’s quoted data mining is accurate.



I built a chatterbox because I was curious, regretted it almost immediately but the holster perk scales and that’s all it’s really used for so oh well.

Still no D50 so liberty will definitely be built at WT5 for me. Not going to try and farm for a merciless too hard right now either even if the holster perk again is all I’m after.

These exotics so far are very underwhelming compared to all of their hype around these being build around weapons you will want to use.

Vorph said:

Those patch notes for today are a bit leaner than I hoped for. The gamepad UI bug where L2 was bound to two different things when you're trying to get rid of mods is great to see fixed, but I'm going to be pretty salty if we still can't recalibrate talents on gloves.

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You can recalibrate gloves, it's just buggy. Like, I was trying to move clutch and getting the weird full circle, nothing happens bullshit. So I switched either the from or the to, I can't remember. And it worked. I've also had no probs with like moving surgical and some other stuff. Some talents or just wonky.


As far as spending time optimizing before WT5, it just happens while you're grinding for blueprints and shit, and it gives you an idea of what talents/weapons you want to use. And it's not like I'm gonna start throwing on higher GS pieces as soon as I get them. One piece could completely fuck all my talents (7 blue, 5 red). I'll probably only upgrade my weapon for a while, while I try to gather enough to not gimp myself for a few extra points/armor.

Raes said:

You can recalibrate gloves, it's just buggy. Like, I was trying to move clutch and getting the weird full circle, nothing happens bullshit. So I switched either the from or the to, I can't remember. And it worked. I've also had no probs with like moving surgical and some other stuff. Some talents or just wonky.

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Hmm, well switching the from and the to or whatever isn't going to help me much. I have Airaldi gloves with 12% AR damage on them. If I move that AR roll to any other glove it gets capped at lower than 12%. So I need to move Clutch onto them and it refuses to do it. The circle fills, it makes the successful crafting sound, but the talent isn't changed and (fortunately) I still have my source gloves and mats. Went and bought the Clutch gloves at the vendor this week and those didn't work either.

And yeah, I don't expect I'll replace anything but guns between the start of WT5 and when I get into full farm mode at 500. I got a crap holster out of my clan box today that was like 465 so I'll boost that to 480 and use it to inflate my GS for getting WT5 drops to 500 faster. Plus two guns that were 463 and 467, along with all the other stuff that dropped around 454 in the past week. Take one piece of that junk per slot, change stats on it to make it ~469, and at least shortcut some of the grind since your drops are based on the (average) GS of the highest gear you have, even if it's in your stash.

I'm disappointed the foam bug where if you die you're permanently rooted wasn't fixed. Happened to me at least 4 times, and last night I lost 2 hunter masks to it (did the 4 spawn one, killed two and got those, got rooted and killed the 3rd and wasn't able to get it, just logged out instead of killing 4th since I was pissed).

Vorph said:

If you have Liberty at 440 I would definitely build Chatterbox now too. Then next Friday, you upgrade your bench to WT5, break down the Chatterbox for a exotic material, use that to upgrade Liberty to 490 (so you don't need another D50), then go farm the parts for Chatterbox quick and rebuild it too. Just make sure you have 10 or so Hyena keys ready to go.

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Is Liberty at 490 a better gun? It has too much recoil and not enough rounds for me to find it useful at the moment.

ver_21 said:

Is Liberty at 490 a better gun? It has too much recoil and not enough rounds for me to find it useful at the moment.

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It will just have higher damage. You equip it mainly for the holstered effect anyway. If you want to do damage, you're probably better off with a sawed-off double barrel (which is also good for exploiting Fill'er Up talent with Model 700 + M60 for primaries).

Utnayan said:

Is it bad I cannot upgrade my fricken crafting bench past WT1 (About to hit WT3 after one mission tonight) because I can't gather 75 titanium? Ugh. And that's just to catch up to 2.

Also, I need steel. Where is a good place for steel?

Anyone have a quick way to farm both?

I also have armor mods dropping like candy in my WT2 missions but for the life of me cannot get a decent gun to drop. I did get that one Pistol though everyone was talking about immediately. Slug nosed diceros or whatever

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There's a chance to get steel when you deconstruct weapons also.

Utnayan said:

Is it bad I cannot upgrade my fricken crafting bench past WT1 (About to hit WT3 after one mission tonight) because I can't gather 75 titanium? Ugh. And that's just to catch up to 2.

Also, I need steel. Where is a good place for steel?

Anyone have a quick way to farm both?

I also have armor mods dropping like candy in my WT2 missions but for the life of me cannot get a decent gun to drop. I did get that one Pistol though everyone was talking about immediately. Slug nosed diceros or whatever

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Yes, that is very strange. I'm constantly full on all mats. I craft a new weapon mod I get from a CP+3 and 10 minutes later I'm all full up again. I'm constantly looking for padlocked doors/gates and I stop to loot every container I see though.

Wish they'd make the CP buff not so retarded. It lasts like 10 minutes which is just about worthless. There's a challenge for every mission to redo it on hard+ and loot 10 or 20 loot boxes, but some of them only have exactly that amount and you need to find every one of them. Some are well-hidden, would be nice to carry the buff all the way through a mission.

Supposedly a lot of titanium around the east mall area.
Not really much point to upgrade the crafting table till wt4 anyways, I think, not until you're ready to craft the exotics.
You can craft the weapon mods for cheaper too before then.

Hex wrenches on the other hand... what a fucking terrible idea to include junk trinkets in projects, had to abandon that project after 3 days of looting everything and still can't find 1 wrench, at least I looted a bunch of pain killers for the headache.

mkopec said:

ive opened like 20 of those chests and not one component yet, lol.

Also ran that stupid hard mode mission thats supossed to drop the merciless like 50 times now.

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I don't see any possible way you're opening the right Hyena boxes if you still don't have any parts. There's only 3 specific zones where you get them from, and once you get one part you need to move on to the next zone. I linked the video which shows the locations of 3 boxes per zone a page or so back. Or go to The Division 2 Map | Interactive Map of Division 2 Locations and turn off everything except "locked crate". Edit: You may have to do them in the order of Downtown East -> Federal Triangle -> Judiciary Square... not 100% on that, but it's the order I used. You absolutely have to do the bank mission after getting all the parts though, that I am 100% sure of.

And exotics are supposedly 1/2/3% drop based on difficulty, so always do them on challenging. I would not bother until WT5 though; upgrading Sweet Dreams -> Lullaby and Merciless -> Ruthless involves the use of some buggy ass recipes that are likely to just downgrade your gun compared to farming in WT5 and getting a natural 500 drop. And you can't even do the Merciless upgrade unless you bought the ultimate edition.