The Elder Scrolls Online

Vaclav_sl said:

Might be something like that, the zoning time leaving was VERRRRRY long. Any time there's zoning it's pretty horrendous right now.

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I thought it was because I had FF running still in the background, but glad to see that wasn't the case. (Well sort of glad, ew.)

I had heard many negative things about the game; I don't really think any of them were warranted unless they've changed a lot. I can't wait to play more of it and I've been spamming log in since the servers went down.

So far I'll say that it feels like it will be very anti-social which is a huge part of MMOs to me - Barrens chat while soloing really isn't an "MMO" to me and so far the combat even with a named I found (that was outleveling all of us taking it down L5 to L2/3's) relatively unexciting to fight not feeling any different than trash - but obviously not something that can truly be evaluated yet.

Some archers are having the "avoid zone" nonsense, but the timing feels right to give some semblance of a chance to converse in text while dodging them though.

Big plus for me with this game compared to any MMO recently is it will have mods. I hope I get into beta so I can start working on some before launch.

Vaclav_sl said:

So far I'll say that it feels like it will be very anti-social which is a huge part of MMOs to me - Barrens chat while soloing really isn't an "MMO" to me and so far the combat even with a named I found (that was outleveling all of us taking it down L5 to L2/3's) relatively unexciting to fight not feeling any different than trash - but obviously not something that can truly be evaluated yet.

Some archers are having the "avoid zone" nonsense, but the timing feels right to give some semblance of a chance to converse in text while dodging them though.

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I really like dodging and moving while in combat; my only nitpick currently is that I cannot see the class abilities doing much for an archer. In Skyrim I went stealth archery, so I chose nightblade and picked up a bow. The abilities I've bought so far have been from assassination and siphon; both use MP, and while siphon cast be cast from range, my assassination ability is 5 yds.

Nice for soloing when they get in too close (But again, being able to strafe and double tap for dodge means this does not often happen) but if I'm not soloing, it's sort of a wasted ability.

Do they anticipate more classes, or are the classes essentially there to augment your weapon preference, or vice versa?

can someone please link the site where i can login to download the game? i cannot find the site where i can login with my beta key & i deleted the email after i registered.

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/was only back two pages man. Not that you'll patch in time for this one. (wife is missing it for the same reason - although in her case her patch glitched or something, was 5:45pm EST and it was saying 1% DLed)

thanks a lot

LadyVex_sl said:

Do they anticipate more classes, or are the classes essentially there to augment your weapon preference, or vice versa?

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I'd be shocked if there's only 4 classes in final - perhaps only 4 per faction sounds plausible, 4 total doesn't.

Vaclav_sl said:

I'd be shocked if there's only 4 classes in final - perhaps only 4 per faction sounds plausible, 4 total doesn't.

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Yea, I mean, not all of the nightblade abilities are melee - this is the class that gives +dmg from stealth, and there are other abilities that augment you just by increasing certain things, like dmg, or improved stealth etc, but those are passives, and a fair bit of the assassination abilities are melee.

Also interesting that those things are mana based; I expected stamina, and while my first few points went into it (As I rolled around a lot to stay at range) I anticipate adding quite a few to magicka if it stays this way.

My toon is completely invisible, from character select to playing.

conexes_sl said:

My toon is completely invisible, from character select to playing.

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Lord Blanco_sl said:

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To be fair, it could highly depend on your expectations - if I didn't like Skyrim and was expecting something like EQ1 or WoW - I'd be uninstalling already I'm sure. Plus with how it's looking from a social standpoint there's good reason to have doubts about it from a social aspect (which should be important to an MMOer normally).

Right now this is looking like a great SP experience and a questionable MP experience - which if that's the case, we only need to look at SW:tOR to see how that pans out for most people. I personally see more meat to TESO's formula so far (frankly I couldn't stand SW:tOR past level 3 or something... which was maybe 30 min... I'm anxious to login after each reset tonight with TESO) but the core "non-MMO" MMO thing could very potentially plague it.

It is a great SP experience however without a doubt.

And remember that Skyrim is wildly popular with most, but some are very highly polarized against it - so it's to be expected a similar portion will immediately be turned off to TESO since it plays similarly.

so my reaction overall is that this is a very good SP game but not only is it very good for MP, it doesn't seem to be very well designed for MP at all. It just really feels like Skyrim with people stealing your kills. is that a bad thing? not really, but it's not going to be what a lot of people are looking for.

so as a singleplayer game, I'd give it a 8, but I'd give it a 6.5 - 7 as a multiplayer game.

How are you guys able to experience the multiple portion of it? As far as I can see, this is much like the early levels of wow, where there is little to no interaction with other people because you are running around/exploring/being sent off on quests.

I haven't encountered a "real" dungeon that might necessitate a group, or even a difficult boss. It's better than what I expected, and the leveling/ability system is actually rather cool, but how are people even able to see any of that stuff and rate it?

Is it just an overall view, or are people actually delving into that kind of thing and seeing it lacks? Otherwise, it feels like more other MMOs at the start; where you are level "fuckoff" and you won't run into anyone with any sort of need for several levels. Hell, I am still in the starting area I think.

Personally I'm just dubious from the nature of the play design and such right now + that one high level (for this area) named with a pack of folks. But until real MP designed dungeons are available it's going to be incredibly hard to evaluate.

But I really can't wrap my head around this style of combat being fun and challenging in a multiplayer setting - either it's going to be faceroll or frustrating with the only things I can envision.

Played for an hour ish. Nothing exciting. Certainly didn't feel worthy of a sub fee. Will hopefully get in a longer beta period where there's actually a decent shot at getting a group and seeing if there's much "mmo" to it. Kinda felt like just a nice looking Skyrim single player game. With people running around.

Meh. Don't know what, if anything, I was expecting really. Just something that would elicit more of a feeling of "omg I must play this."