I agree, but that's the way it is with this generation of wow clone mmo devs. Rift did nothing good whatsoever, yet meny people think it was great. GW2 had the shittiest combat system since EQ2, but many also thought it was great. Yet, everything is wrong with TESO because they have to feel like the previous games. It doesn't seem right to me.
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And because it's fucking awful. GW2 and Rift and TOR and shit were all bad, but they all had positives over wow too. TES has none.
You are on crack. Combat in GW2 is great. It's just not an interdependent holy trinity system. Other than the animations problems, TESO's combat is kinda fun for me. It's not super varied at low levels and it feels very mushy for an action combat game but it''s definately not the worst problem.
Tuco
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PVP and solo combat was good. The "Hey we're 2-50 guys doing the same quest together for the next 5 minutes" combat was pretty good too in that the mob count scaled. The group PVE was really, really bad. Bring back the trinity.
Someone should compile a list of all the reasons TESO sucks and I'll put it in the OP. I think someone already made this list but I don't know which page it's on.
Someone should compile a list of all the reasons TESO sucks and I'll put it in the OP. I think someone already made this list but I don't know which page it's on.
Anomander Rake
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That sounds like a perfect job for Utnayan. Where is he btw? Hospitalized for a rage blackout?
Quaid
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Well, Aradune is posting on the boards again. That means Utnayan is probably in his Hyperbolic Time Chamber training for their first confrontation.
spronk
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saw this on somethingawful and pretty much agree with it all
in addition to the bemoaned "how is this a TES game when there is virtually no sandbox playstyle supported, its completely on rails". The weekend beta is also horrendously buggy, from crashing constantly to skill bars vanishing ALL the time to getting stuck in npc dialogues to lots of level 5-10 quests uncompletable etc etc. Not a big deal, all fixable, BUT THE GAME LAUNCHES IN 3 MONTHS!Acelerion_sl said:
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I agree on all the points mentioned regarding what this game has to offer. However, I'm amazed at how smooth this game runs on Ultra settings. I had no crashes at all this weekend, everything cranked up to max, and the game was running smooth as silk. Damn shame the actual game is shit.
So I finally got patched and made a character to try the third alliance and a new weapon type. Went with a nord two-hander. The opening area did feel a lot better, but even the first door still went crazy by open/shut spamming before the load screen came up to move into the next small, closed off space. Two-handers actually sounded a lot better than previous weapon types, which made their combat feel pretty average. Getting a pair of 1handers soon after showed me that 1h/shield and dual wield still feels/sounds completely hollow. The nord alliance starting area quests were much better than the other two. Does anyone know if the other two were updated since November or are they still very different experiences? There was one quest where I went around a cave pressing "e" to find clues, but there was a taunting NPC voice narrating while I did it which felt at least a bit more ES.
I haven't followed the game closely enough, but from what I can tell the stress tests are 1-10 quests, then 10-17 pvp/dungeons. Is that how the whole game is, or can you get to 50 via solo questing? After the stuff today, it feels like a game I'd do a GW2 style B2P ($40ish) to play through the decent stuff and revisit if they improve the other areas. As of right now, it feels like they'd need 18+ months to get all the combat variations and starting areas up to snuff. Part of the problem with the $15 sub is that it feels like a ticking clock in a game franchise I usually like to take slow.
Edit: Retracting the B2P comment. Of course another few minutes in and there was a broken quest, had to search their forums to fix. And going through the next area is simply snore-inducing. I tag a mob maybe once every 10 minutes of play time and it dies in one hit without a single combat sound.
I haven't followed the game closely enough, but from what I can tell the stress tests are 1-10 quests, then 10-17 pvp/dungeons. Is that how the whole game is, or can you get to 50 via solo questing? After the stuff today, it feels like a game I'd do a GW2 style B2P ($40ish) to play through the decent stuff and revisit if they improve the other areas. As of right now, it feels like they'd need 18+ months to get all the combat variations and starting areas up to snuff. Part of the problem with the $15 sub is that it feels like a ticking clock in a game franchise I usually like to take slow.
Edit: Retracting the B2P comment. Of course another few minutes in and there was a broken quest, had to search their forums to fix. And going through the next area is simply snore-inducing. I tag a mob maybe once every 10 minutes of play time and it dies in one hit without a single combat sound.
Who would even consider designing a closed-in, linear model MMO nowadays? It frustrates me that such a huge budget would be blown on a game that breaks such basic rules such as dont make your RPG a linear, quest-hub, dead world piece of crap!
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Too bad really , was really looking forward to this and avoided this thread till i started playing. Glad i got the beta invite , but to have so many bugged low level quests with only 3 months left is just saying how shit this is...cant imagine how many more are out there and i highly doubt they will have a REAL beta to where no lvl cap is imposed to properly get these bugs reported and worked on. Disappointed , really would love a new MMO to dig into...guess i need to keep waiting.
Story of our lives. Thank you gaming industry - you just deliver such great games, AT LEAST one every decade. Just fucking wow. How could we ever complain.
I doubt much was spent on "the game" as it was spent on travel , hookers and cocaine via expense accounts. Plus staff bloat , suren begorrah ole eamon ain't know fuckity all about da coding. Still he and has fifty moron friends all nee jobs so hire them up. )
Tellin ya the private investor lawsuit readings that come from this long after the game is F2P will be full of I told you so comedy.
Sucks much ass that I can't short this company stock.
Utnayan
I Love Utnayan he’s awesome
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I'm here. My dad passed away on Friday.
Quaid
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...fuck manI'm here. My dad passed away on Friday.losing a parent is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. You lose a lot of the kid inside.
All the best to your family.
Utnayan
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Thanks Quaid. It is very much appreciated.
Edit: looks like the game is still horrible.
Thanks zzeris.
zzeris
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Really sorry to hear that Ut.I'm here. My dad passed away on Friday.losing a parent is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. You lose a lot of the kid inside.