The Expanse

Ashford was god tier despite being a belter.

Belter Lives Matter is the worse of the 3 factions though.

Funny how that works.

They need to stop killing off the good characters. Good episode but never been so angry at the show like now. That spiky haired bitch just suddenly changed the whole direction of the plot ? How did no one suspect her dumbass before. How did they even know where Johnson was hiding the molecule. And also as annoying as Naomi is her son with his stupid half open mouthed stare is even worse. They’re keeping the wrong people alive.

The whole idea of stealth shielded asteroid warfare is pretty fuckin cool and seems like something that could actually happen though

Lithose said:

Good episode...But god damn I fucking hate Belters. They are the fucking worst.

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Spoken like a true Innah! Beltalowda!!!

Malakriss said:

To clarify, 3 hit in the show and 3 hit in the book. They slightly adjusted where they hit along with the prison location so it was realistic for Amos to arrive there.

Show says 3 hit, 3 miss, 3 intercepted by Earth, and the initial one that broke up so 10 total attempted in the show.

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Ya, in the book the 2nd meteor hits in the Atlantic, but the show made it looks like it impacted right near Philly/New York City, which makes me wonder how they handle Amos' story post-impact considering where his journey takes him eventually. The asteroids in the books always felt like bigger extinction level event shit, though, considering the aftermath. Like the one that hit Africa, in the episode they only measure it in Kilotons vs. megatons for yield, but in a prior scene, the scientist talking to Chrissie thinks the Venus one was in the megaton range.

Cybsled said:

Ya, in the book the 2nd meteor hits in the Atlantic, but the show made it looks like it impacted right near Philly/New York City, which makes me wonder how they handle Amos' story post-impact considering where his journey takes him eventually. The asteroids in the books always felt like bigger extinction level event shit, though, considering the aftermath. Like the one that hit Africa, in the episode they only measure it in Kilotons vs. megatons for yield, but in a prior scene, the scientist talking to Chrissie thinks the Venus one was in the megaton range.

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I thought they did a good job of showing the escalation of the strikes and how reality and information travel was unfolding. At first it's a single rogue strike so they're announcing tsunami warnings and how many are without power, but then the 2nd hit and everyone knows it's an attack with the rapid followup of the 3rd. We get to see visually how big the 3rd hit is and realization of who just died, but the scramble to make sure the watchtower order went out before the chaos. Then the POV shift back to Tycho and in the middle it's Monica who sees the news for the 2nd impact with the shockwave spreading across the atmosphere. Then eventually the hold-your-breath moment of Luna citizens watching the 4th being detected and the railgun shot which fragments it into multiple rocks before the cleanup barrage finishes.

6 of 10 were going to hit, Chrissie managed to get through and prevented half of those. So catastrophic level but not whole planet is fucked for a million years level which would happen if the remaining had impacted.

Deathwing said:

Earthers and Martians are flawed humans all over the spectrum of characteristics. I may not empathize with them but they are believable and relatable. Belters just seem to be personified victimhood and retribution. Or maybe even veiled plot devices. Miller and Johnson were the most believable Belters and loltheydead.

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unsure about Miller but Johnson was an Earther to start, probably why they're much better

Enjoyed the chubby belter chick taunting holden after the robot took the proto molecule.

uncognito said:

Enjoyed the chubby belter chick taunting holden after the robot took the proto molecule.

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Chubby? Maybe, but I'd smash that

This thread side tangent reminded me of some shitty made for TV movie in the early 90s. All I remember is it had John Delancie as a reporter. Aliens were lobbing meteors at Earth and eventually they put together a plan to stop the next meteor, but then some dude figures out the meteors are aliens trying to communicate and the aliens get salty after we nuke a meteor and then lob like 1,000 meteors at the Earth and kill everyone lol

edit: lol found it

Deathwing said:

Earthers and Martians are flawed humans all over the spectrum of characteristics. I may not empathize with them but they are believable and relatable. Belters just seem to be personified victimhood and retribution. Or maybe even veiled plot devices. Miller and Johnson were the most believable Belters and loltheydead.

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Yeah, most of the belters are definitely very one note and not very interesting because of that. There's a few exceptions, but that's definitely the trend. Miller, Johnson, Drummer, Ashford, there's probably a few others that I'm forgetting, but that's a pretty small minority for interesting characters.

naomi is like michael from star trek. a diversity hire no one believes is there on their merits and only trash writing can jam it through the storyline.

Lanx said:

yea some1 please give me a tldr on naomi and stupid son? i really just fastforward when i see her stupid ass on tv

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When Naomi was much younger, she used to run with Marco and his bunch. That's why the big guy (Cyn) and the chick knew who she was in the bar when she went to find her son. She had the kid with Marco when she was with him, drawn to his charisma, Belter shit, etc. We'll see where they go with it, in the books he had used a program or something she wrote to cause a reactor problem with a ship to blow it up. Naomi felt responsible and turned away from Marco for putting blood on her hands, leaving behind their son because Marco was still the head hancho.

I disagree. They're following the book narrative and each character basically gives you a POV into the major events:

Holden: Lets you see what is going on with Fred Johnson and the Protomolecule
Naomi: Lets you see what is going on with Marco
Alex: Lets you see what is going on with Mars and the black market shit
Amos: Lets you see what is going on with Earth

I never was a fan of the Naomi & her son story line in the book (although at least the show let you know about the son much earlier and build that up more...in the book she basically just drops an information bomb out of the blue that she has a kid and peaces out to find him), but I did appreciate the POV into the extremist Marco belters.

Did anybody mention Bull being brought in as security on Tycho for this season after they wrote the character out of Season 3?