The Fast Food Thread

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youre in disneyland, you paid to get fucked in the ass
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Man, my family would cook up a feast and pack it up for when we went to amusement parks. We would all head out and eat in the cars then go back in. We had a big family so it would be crazy to try to feed everyone in the park. Even 30ish years ago.
 
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Man, my family would cook up a feast and pack it up for when we went to amusement parks. We would all head out and eat in the cars then go back in. We had a big family so it would be crazy to try to feed everyone in the park. Even 30ish years ago.
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wth, i remember the last time i went to disneyland it took like 45mins from parking to ending up at the castle cuz the ppl movers took forever
 
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Disneyland prices are outrageous but even the video shows it’s like a family pack with salads and drinks and breadsticks. But yeah it should be $50 for that at Disneyland.
 
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Lots of people in food service use drugs, this is not evidence that drug use causes the problems facing the industry
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He was arguing that there aren't lots of druggies in fast food. There are. In abundance. You are correct that they are not the problem.
 
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LOL at anyone trying to blame shitty fast food workeers on drugs. LOL. Such boomer brain rot shit.

Drug addicts dont work at Fast food places. They suck dick for drugs, rob shit, or are just homeless pieces of shit.

Seriously where are you seeing Fast food workers that are strung out on heroin in most of the US? They dont work.

Fast Food workers consists of 3 groups. This applies to your panera breads, chiptoles, starbucks etc too, the fast casual crowd.

1) Shitty American Inventors and DREAMERS that are lazy, work there because its all they can do, but dont care about trying because thats white people shit
2) Shitty entitled white fags who think that just because they took a job and showed up they should be rich. They dont care about results or effort, just showing up and they dont want to work hard they want to do work that "is meaningful to them". 2 weeks after getting these jobs they become full blown Communist reddit retards.
3) Old people who spnet their lives boozing, doing drugs and being lazy pieces of shit, but now have to suck it up and work shitty fastfood jobs as a results of their bad decisions. They bust their asses and are the only ones at these places worth a damn because they are old enough to still understand you have to try at work, but they are old, slow, and probably dying of something. They are also usually the breakfast crews because they will show up at 5 am unlike the American Inventors.

Also heres some food for thought: When is the last time you saw someone working in the service industry in a yarmulke? I see plenty of Hijabs, Fox Motocross hats and Kangz shit, never noticed a bagel place full of steins though

Private Equity killed the service industry, the supply chain, and the american work force.
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I worked in drug rehab and detox for 4 years. I saw druggies in fast food all the time. Where do you think the functional ones and drunks work? Wall Street? You're living in some kind of boomer brain rot with the 'old people who made bad decisions are the good ones!'. LMAO. "I made bad decisions all my life but I'm dying to work my ass off for $15 an hour now!" Good God. Delusional boomer retardation.

The homeless population is documented at about 775,000. Even if it's a lot higher (it isn't), there are 48 million people who last year had a SUD. 58 million admitted binge drinkers. 10 million people were treated in facilities for substance abuse. That's a bit (A LOT) more people than the homeless population. You need to get out more.

Kirun Kirun , you made some good points but I don't consider my argument the 'moral one'. It just makes sense to me to focus on food quality. I worked at Outback when they were considered the top, or one of the top restaurants in the country. Almost everything was made in store. 99% of the product made in house (and taste tested every single day by management). Just like it used to be in Cracker Barrel. It is a choice for these companies to get the cheapest products from Sysco.
 
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There are druggies in every industry, just different kinds. Arguing about whether there are druggies in fast food is like arguing about which fast food places have rats/cockroaches.

They all do.
 
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There are druggies in every industry, just different kinds. Arguing about whether there are druggies in fast food is like arguing about which fast food places have rats/cockroaches.

They all do.
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Druggies are actually decent at low IQ menial labor, too if you can keep them focused.
 
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I have two McDonalds and two Chick-Fil-A within 5 miles, obviously each has a near and a "far" store but if you take hitting red lights out of the equation they are all a reasonable distance.

The far McD existed first and does higher volume than the close one, but has fresher food with faster turnover and thus isn't left on the warmer for long. In fact the fries are almost always the waited-on item to cook. Conversely, CFA food quality has declined overall but they do much higher volume and thus premake as much as they can meaning the fries, nuggets, etc are intentionally under the warmer ahead of time. I got in the habit of special ordering a sandwich minus pickles just so it would be made-to-order but they cost cut the chicken quality too far now so i've recently switched to strips. The close McD has the least customers and longest wait problems beyond food quality so it ranks as the worst all around and never considered.

But the prices have gone up to nearly match places like Wingstop which has tenders at a much higher quality than any of them (restaurant level I believe is the term for it). Fast food cost is reaching parity to places without a drive thru and where we would have to time ordering on the way back from wherever, but the quality tier gap is massive. They are nearing the point where we ditch them and convert to takeout/carryout 100%. Unfortunately, we've lost multiple pizza places in our area since covid, we sit dead middle at the edge of 2 Domino's radii, a DOA Marcos is the last new place that was built and we don't have a legendary mom and pop local place. So in the last 20 years both food quality and store options have all declined.

The business economics side can be argued, but it is going to come down to amount paid vs meat quality as to who survives in the end.
 
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I live in a town of like 30k. We have 3 McDonald's in my town and it is the only fast food place that has 3 locations. My town is maybe all in a 5 mile radius. Also, they are all steadily busy.
 
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I don't really eat out much these days. But I thank God that you can find a Mexican taqueria in every single gas station in Texas. The one i hit up also makes tortillas on site, the whole nine.

It's hard to fuck up a breakfast taco, but still. They're better than anything from McDonald's or whatever else you can think of.
 
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I worked in drug rehab and detox for 4 years. I saw druggies in fast food all the time. Where do you think the functional ones and drunks work? Wall Street? You're living in some kind of boomer brain rot with the 'old people who made bad decisions are the good ones!'. LMAO. "I made bad decisions all my life but I'm dying to work my ass off for $15 an hour now!" Good God. Delusional boomer retardation.

The homeless population is documented at about 775,000. Even if it's a lot higher (it isn't), there are 48 million people who last year had a SUD. 58 million admitted binge drinkers. 10 million people were treated in facilities for substance abuse. That's a bit (A LOT) more people than the homeless population. You need to get out more.

Kirun Kirun , you made some good points but I don't consider my argument the 'moral one'. It just makes sense to me to focus on food quality. I worked at Outback when they were considered the top, or one of the top restaurants in the country. Almost everything was made in store. 99% of the product made in house (and taste tested every single day by management). Just like it used to be in Cracker Barrel. It is a choice for these companies to get the cheapest products from Sysco.
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You're throwing out a lot of emotionally charged anecdotes and national statistics, but none of them actually support the point you think they do. You've essentially argued that because a large percentage of Americans have some form of substance use issue, that explains why the food industry is bad now. You seem to be using correlation as a moral cudgel, despite your claim that you think you aren't arguing from moral viewpoint.

You worked in rehab, so your sample is literally skewed toward people who needed treatment. That didn't give you a representative labor market view, it gave you a front-row seat to the worst cases. Fast food was never staffed by master chefs. It was always high school kids, burnouts, old people looking for things to fill out their day, etc. It didn't suddenly become bad because workers changed. It became bad because corporations, outsourced prep, centralized ingredients, reduced on-site cooking, cut training, standardized menus, etc. You can swap out every employee in a McDonald's tomorrow for Michelin-trained cooks and it will still be Sysco patties, frozen buns, and pre-mixed sauce. The supply chain dictates the ceiling.

But as far as, "It is a choice to use Sysco."? You keep ignoring the fact that the "choice" to use them is determined by margin pressure, logistics scale, shareholder expectations and distribution monopolization. When the entire industry is financially incentivized to buy from the same two suppliers, calling it a "choice" is about as meaningful as saying Americans are "free" to not use the internet.

A technically available option is not the same thing as a viable one.
 
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You're throwing out a lot of emotionally charged anecdotes and national statistics, but none of them actually support the point you think they do. You've essentially argued that because a large percentage of Americans have some form of substance use issue, that explains why the food industry is bad now. You seem to be using correlation as a moral cudgel, despite your claim that you think you aren't arguing from moral viewpoint.

You worked in rehab, so your sample is literally skewed toward people who needed treatment. That didn't give you a representative labor market view, it gave you a front-row seat to the worst cases. Fast food was never staffed by master chefs. It was always high school kids, burnouts, old people looking for things to fill out their day, etc. It didn't suddenly become bad because workers changed. It became bad because corporations, outsourced prep, centralized ingredients, reduced on-site cooking, cut training, standardized menus, etc. You can swap out every employee in a McDonald's tomorrow for Michelin-trained cooks and it will still be Sysco patties, frozen buns, and pre-mixed sauce. The supply chain dictates the ceiling.

But as far as, "It is a choice to use Sysco."? You keep ignoring the fact that the "choice" to use them is determined by margin pressure, logistics scale, shareholder expectations and distribution monopolization. When the entire industry is financially incentivized to buy from the same two suppliers, calling it a "choice" is about as meaningful as saying Americans are "free" to not use the internet.

A technically available option is not the same thing as a viable one.
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Druggies is 20% of the work force so I never said it wax the primary reason. Matt said it contributes and it does. It’s not a massive factor but it is a factor. Just like the kids and old people not caring is a factor. You fixated on it because you want to defend it. It is a part of the problem and is a problem everywhere. Matt brought it up and it’s true not matter how much you want to redirect from it.

Keep eating the slop bud and telling everyone they can’t help doling it out. I’m sure your full throared defense will help margins immediately as more stores close. Good job. They should hire you because you definitely would turn it around with your excuses.
 
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Druggies is 20% of the work force so I never said it wax the primary reason. Matt said it contributes and it does. It’s not a massive factor but it is a factor. Just like the kids and old people not caring is a factor. You fixated on it because you want to defend it. It is a part of the problem and is a problem everywhere. Matt brought it up and it’s true not matter how much you want to redirect from it.

Keep eating the slop bud and telling everyone they can’t help doling it out. I’m sure your full throared defense will help margins immediately as more stores close. Good job. They should hire you because you definitely would turn it around with your excuses.
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I never worked fast food, but I did work low tier jobs. A lot of the people were on drugs, but I wouldn't qualify them as "druggies". Just functioning alcoholics and people on weed. People who were taking shit, but they had enough restraint to not let it obviously impact their daily work. A lot of them had that last hour "time to light up" once we were effectively done. They'd go out and smoke a joint or pop their first bottle of beer.

Those types weren't a real problem. The real addicts were.
 
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woman?

can one of you white guys go and checkout a local wendys?
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No. I wrote off Wendy's as being shrinkflation trash like 3-4 years ago when they went down the road of turning all of their so-called sandwiches into retardedly small sliders. It may have started before then, but Wendy's was already a rare choice for me, so that's when I noticed. Anyone who picks Wendy's deserves what they get.
 
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holy shit this thing is 3.50 in my area
 
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I never worked fast food, but I did work low tier jobs. A lot of the people were on drugs, but I wouldn't qualify them as "druggies". Just functioning alcoholics and people on weed. People who were taking shit, but they had enough restraint to not let it obviously impact their daily work. A lot of them had that last hour "time to light up" once we were effectively done. They'd go out and smoke a joint or pop their first bottle of beer.

Those types weren't a real problem. The real addicts were.
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Right, I think everyone has worked with those types and the functional alkies were the worser group. Only semi functional many times and in a hot kitchen, they dried out fast and suffered. They were mainly good to show up because that case of beer every night wasn’t free. They fucked up things all the time though because functional was very subjective.

We don’t know if it’s the same types working today though. All the workers are worse it’s not just them. Different times but these workers don’t care today. I don’t care who their supplier is.
 
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We don’t know if it’s the same types working today though. All the workers are worse it’s not just them. Different times but these workers don’t care today. I don’t care who their supplier is.
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kids these days are spoiled little bitches, over thxgiving i heard the same story 3x from 3 different ppl in diff companies

we're ending wfh, back to 5days, everyone said all the kids(the genz working under them), are complaining, some can't "afford" to move closer, etc

these are working professionals, think how much complaining a blue haired barista getting 30$/hr for doing nuttin is complaining
 
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holy shit this thing is 3.50 in my area
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I really don't understand why anyone is still spending money at fast food places anymore. The food is shit and the prices are through the roof. Last time I went to McD's it was almost $10 for a bacon egg and cheese biscuit, coffee, and hash brown. Haven't been back and don't plan to.
 
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woman?

can one of you white guys go and checkout a local wendys?
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Its always been on the small side, but shes ordering it like a retard. Its was a loss leader, and it can still be if you order smarter.

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Also I found this about size, and it had stats about the 2005 JBC (its the same size a year ago, now its smaller, but the price is obviously the problem.)

 
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