The Mandalorian & Grogu (2026)
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Well half the forum is slob knobbing Hades 2 after the express DEI liberal pandering and stuff… saying “yeah that all is bad, but the GHAME GUD HERE MONEYS” so- giving the Mandi movie a “eh ill watch for free and see” is well…
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I consider Rogue One and Mandalorian S1 to be canon.
Last summer I read Heir to the Empire (1993) by Timothy Zahn and it genuinely felt OT to me. I also read Dark Empire where Luke became cloned Palpatine's apprentice and that was meh (it was released around the same time). Heir to the Empire was fantastic though.
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Without Filoni we'd have no Thrawn. But he's also why we have no Thrawn. It's win-lose with Disney.
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The Zahn novels were canon before the Disney buyout.
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The Zahn novels still are canon as far as I’m concerned.
Canon, in the literal sense, means created by the original creator or approved explicitly by the original creator.
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Yup. Disney cancelling the EU just meant Disney was cancelled. Fuck that dirty whore of a mouse.
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And then the creator assassinated his character in live-action. Turned one of the greatest villains in Star Wars into a fat bumbling inept cuck fool.
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I declined to watch Thrawn on tv adaptation and it turns out I made the right call.
i stopped watching Star Wars products midway through Kenobi. Kenobi was so hyped and such an easy slam dunk and man. How they massacred my boy
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The bait-and-switch meta-ad has been done a thousand times. You (sorta) show the horses and the sleigh in the Budweiser style, you do the beer ad voicecover, you pan from tauntaun legs to Grogu at the reins - then smash cut to the actual trailer.
Here, they... didn't bother to do the second half? It's not just that the ad itself was underwhelming, its that this is (almost) their last chance for mass market advertisement before the movie comes out. Afaik, the _only_ Disney release before M&G they could attach another trailer to is the B (if not C) tier Pixar kids movie Hoppers https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26443616/
For a movie that didn't get any setup in the larger Star Wars universe, whose #1 concern amongst fans was that there was nothing that suggested this was anything other than a three episode The Mandalorian arc condensed slightly and given better FX rendering, Disney is unwilling (or unable, given the content in the movie) to do anything to establish this is something that the mass market should not just wait for its Disney+ release at, what, Christmas? Does Disney even wait that long (and conflict with Avengers Doomsday), or does it get an Oct / Nov release in the dismal hopes kids will want Grogu merch for Christmas after seeing it?
(I doubt Favreau is going to deliver a bad product. I have no faith he's going to be able to deliver a product that doesn't seem like it shouldn't have just been Mando S4.)
Here, they... didn't bother to do the second half? It's not just that the ad itself was underwhelming, its that this is (almost) their last chance for mass market advertisement before the movie comes out. Afaik, the _only_ Disney release before M&G they could attach another trailer to is the B (if not C) tier Pixar kids movie Hoppers https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26443616/
For a movie that didn't get any setup in the larger Star Wars universe, whose #1 concern amongst fans was that there was nothing that suggested this was anything other than a three episode The Mandalorian arc condensed slightly and given better FX rendering, Disney is unwilling (or unable, given the content in the movie) to do anything to establish this is something that the mass market should not just wait for its Disney+ release at, what, Christmas? Does Disney even wait that long (and conflict with Avengers Doomsday), or does it get an Oct / Nov release in the dismal hopes kids will want Grogu merch for Christmas after seeing it?
(I doubt Favreau is going to deliver a bad product. I have no faith he's going to be able to deliver a product that doesn't seem like it shouldn't have just been Mando S4.)
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Actually looking at the movie release schedule, I'd argue this is more than a Mandalorian issue, this is a Disney in general issue:
Did you know there's a Toy Story 5, coming out in four months? Why would you, there's no trailer.
Did you know Spiderman 4 is still coming out in five months (despite, you know, if Avengers: Doomsday's original release dates were ever real, they would have completely fucked with the plotline of this movie)? Why would you, there's no trailer.
Whether this is changing Disney execs, cost cutting initiatives (why bother mass advertising IP X+1, the mass market knows if they care about IP X by now - IIRC, only Thunderbolts got a SB spot last year), or movies being made so late that trailer houses literally don't have final footage to work with until the very end, we're just not seeing long or even medium term ad campaigns.
Unless Disney's plan is to just switch to advertising Next Movie once Existing Movie comes out, i.e. waiting for Hoppers' release to attach the Toy Story 5 trailer to, or waiting for M&G to attach Spider-Man 4 to. That would be fine if anyone is going to bother to see Hoppers or M&G - and I don't know if that's a guarantee anymore.
Did you know there's a Toy Story 5, coming out in four months? Why would you, there's no trailer.
Did you know Spiderman 4 is still coming out in five months (despite, you know, if Avengers: Doomsday's original release dates were ever real, they would have completely fucked with the plotline of this movie)? Why would you, there's no trailer.
Whether this is changing Disney execs, cost cutting initiatives (why bother mass advertising IP X+1, the mass market knows if they care about IP X by now - IIRC, only Thunderbolts got a SB spot last year), or movies being made so late that trailer houses literally don't have final footage to work with until the very end, we're just not seeing long or even medium term ad campaigns.
Unless Disney's plan is to just switch to advertising Next Movie once Existing Movie comes out, i.e. waiting for Hoppers' release to attach the Toy Story 5 trailer to, or waiting for M&G to attach Spider-Man 4 to. That would be fine if anyone is going to bother to see Hoppers or M&G - and I don't know if that's a guarantee anymore.
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Spider-Man 4 is, just like the rest of the Tom Holland movies, released by Sony, but is a Marvel production, with at least some level of profit sharing going to Disney.
But if your argument is correct, that would further suggest it is an industry-wide issue: The only Sony releases with any lead time prior to Spidey 4 are (this weekend's) animated GOAT (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27613895/) and May's Adam Sandler-esque comedy The Breadwinner (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34459219/).
May God have mercy on the PR reps trying to build a Spidey 4 ad campaign off just those two movies, if you're right.
But if your argument is correct, that would further suggest it is an industry-wide issue: The only Sony releases with any lead time prior to Spidey 4 are (this weekend's) animated GOAT (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27613895/) and May's Adam Sandler-esque comedy The Breadwinner (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34459219/).
May God have mercy on the PR reps trying to build a Spidey 4 ad campaign off just those two movies, if you're right.