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The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown
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BrotherWu
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You should count yourself lucky. The most I've gotten in all these years is being told to watch a bunch of multi-hour videos that will totally change the way I view this stuff!
I'm literally on the first page of this thread saying what I think of all of the UFO crap, and to this date I haven't seen one scrap of evidence to change my mind.
So,
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Hop in discord and we can talk about your lack of vigor sir.You should count yourself lucky. The most I've gotten in all these years is being told to watch a bunch of multi-hour videos that will totally change the way I view this stuff!
I'm literally on the first page of this thread saying what I think of all of the UFO crap, and to this date I haven't seen one scrap of evidence to change my mind.
So,
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Fyi, one of the big conventions just happened last weekend. Been waiting for some better compiles from the event. Here's an exchange.
Jay is the guy that relabelled UFO to UAP in the government.
Jay is the guy that relabelled UFO to UAP in the government.
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You should count yourself lucky. The most I've gotten in all these years is being told to watch a bunch of multi-hour videos that will totally change the way I view this stuff!
I'm literally on the first page of this thread saying what I think of all of the UFO crap, and to this date I haven't seen one scrap of evidence to change my mind.
So,
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Aaron
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The more I've looked into ancient cultures, the more I've come to realise that "progress" is a myth, and that our forefathers were all the bit our equals, even more perhaps, than we are. Just reading the texts of some of the ancient Greeks and Romans and you realise that politicians such as Cicero would run rings around our chumps, and give Archimedes access to modern computing and engineering equipment and he would move the world. You have the neolithic people of Great Britain who built Stone Henge having very advanced methods of astronomy and mathematics. Then there is my pet favourite, grammar and language. We keep noticing how in modern times languages tend toward simplification, such as English losing two grammatical cases and such, latin languages losing more. But at some point we had to have been increasing grammatical complexity up to the 4, 6, 8, even 16 (check out Finish) of many older languages.
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Daidraco
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I dont think language is devolving. In fact, I believe its the opposite. Join a foreign guild on a US server in one of your games. You'll see some mish-mash of different languages being crammed into English. (Join a guild based in Bangladesh on a US Server and you'll see Hindi-Bengali-English, for example.) What you and I see as mud people butchering our language is just the language evolving. At this point, I think we are fast approaching an AI that will auto translate anything we say and hear to anyone else regardless of where we are in the world - on the fly, naturally. (think Startrek). Then, in a distant future that we'll likely be dead before we reach - we'll have inadvertently, through the use of AI, moved to a global language. (Im not pro-globalism, but its hard to argue against a unified language.)
As far as lost technologies and techniques - I think we're in a modern Dark Age. In that, a technology is quickly bought up, hidden, lobbied against etc. until it can be monetized in some form or fashion. We could very well have the basics of how the ancients moved these big huge blocks around easily (or not so easily) and by releasing this information to the public - could not only bankrupt the corporation, but destabilize entire industries across the globe. Until thats fixed, globally, I dont see us leapfrogging up to some perfect existance anytime soon. Space Travel is our next big "freedom" moment I think, and God knows how far away that is.
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Holy crap was I Nostradamus. I took the hit and watched the first episode of scrunchy boy. I don't recommend it but I'm not against watching it. Like I guessed he does exactly what Hancock does. I'll give a specific example from the first episode.
He's an environmental scientist among other crap. One of his arguments is saying how little real sea change there was in each year during the younger dryas, a one point around 2cm a year. We currently are seeing far less than that but people in his specialty are freaking out over what that means for us. Later on he talks about infrastructure from these civilisations being under water. Then he complains that there isn't funding to explore them. Scrunchy can't see the forest through the trees. That isn't my favorite though.
He constantly misrepresents Hancock's view of a lost civilization. He thinks that means a civilization that conquered that world. Because in his tiny brain that is the only way things work. Hancock is pretty specific, at least in the episodes I endured, that he is talking about a people that spread knowledge, not conquered. 5 foot nothing scrunchy boy is a product of university bias whose world lens isn't one that can't imagine ancient people's trading peacefully or indigenous people, whatever that means, accepting help.
Anyhow, shits boring and I'm done. The only thing interesting about the ice age and the post ice age to me is the megafauna. Let's get working on bringing the woolly rhino back.
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Chris
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I think his main issue is mocking the guy too much to get an emotional reaction from the audience, Hancock does this in a different way but goes for the emotions too.
So your problem isn't the argument he makes about sea level rise in the video, but that it's inconsistent with stuff unrelated to the video you think he may belive?
Conquest or not is totally irrelevent to the points made in the video. I don't even remember him saying it because it's so inconsequential.
Would it help if a taller person made the same points?
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Rajaah
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What the fuck thread did you just tag me in.....
PS: Area 51 in the middle of the 20th century was where the US was reverse engineering captured Nazi Technology in a race to beat the Russians. Including their flying saucer.
Flying Saucer invented in Germany - Maier files Series
Today exact 75 years ago - on 15 july 1941, Rudolf Schriever started the development of a conventional flying saucer, a jet driven flying disc...www.maier-files.com
Also the F-117 was developed during the same time era from reverse engineering the Horten Ho 229.
Horten Ho 229 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The sightings were real - they were also prototype reversed engineering craft from Nazi Tech captured after the war.
Nothing was Alien.
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Yanno, if the Germans hadn't flown off the handle and tried to fight Great Britain and the Soviet Union at the same time while occupying all of Europe and killing a bunch of people they don't like... the world would be a much better place today. They were developing so much incredible stuff in the 1930's in the medical, aviation, and engineering fields. I've got little doubt they would have landed on the moon well before the US or USSR did, and who knows how many new advancements we'd have today due to them. Instead we've been largely reliant on Japan, South Korea, and China to do most of our technological advancement, it seems like.
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It's a general statement about what he believes interfering with him taking arguments seriously. He wants to dunk so hard that he has a blind spot. 2cm, I know it was more at some points and less on others, is a hell of a lot and even over one lifetime it would force massive changes to infrastructure if they had that. He then goes on to say they might have had that kind of infrastructure but we haven't really looked yet.
Yes. It's always hard to take uppity midgets seriously.
Chris
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For me it always comes back to the fact that all these cultures are very distinct.
Yes there were many settlements by the sea that were claimed by sea level rise and what we have left are the inland settlements.
But a conical mound or terraces are the easiest way to build up which you could independently invent and every culture had different construction methods... there was no ancient Pyramid builder culture.
Yes there were many settlements by the sea that were claimed by sea level rise and what we have left are the inland settlements.
But a conical mound or terraces are the easiest way to build up which you could independently invent and every culture had different construction methods... there was no ancient Pyramid builder culture.
Daidraco
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We're reliant on them because intellectual property and trademarks mean fuck all in China. Then when one of those tech cities in China finds a break through with the technology, the company with the trademark here in the US commercially produces that product and it saves them a ton on R&D. It fucking sucks but its genius. Also - The technology for the 3000 and the 4000 series has been codename trademarked with Nvidia since 2011 for example. Since that time, theyve very likely found the next or several more generations to follow. Theyre strategic releases and it makes sense, financially, to do so with AMD following their lead. (How many times have those two been caught trying to price fix, now? Do we really think they havent found other avenues to communicate?)
Also, in your WW1 to WW2 era - they were actively ramping up for war. For example, the shit Hitler funded made no fucking sense at times. Chasing down the wildest of theories and had people traveling around the world on the hopes of finding powerful artifacts to take over the world. Never mind that some real fuckery was going on with the German dollar at that point, funny money. A lot of shit would have to change in the US for new technologies to constantly be on the rise. But if all of that shit was out of the way and we werent constantly throwing money at monkeys for votes - imagine where we would be?
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Chris
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I wouldn't be so sure.
War makes technological improvement nessesary for survival, with a British codebreaker inventing computers to break codes. There's no guarantee that computers and rockets would have been funded without a hot war, or a space program without a cold war.
Also the German economy was race based socialism, when they ran out of "inferior" races to redistribute wealth from, the German economy would have crashed. They would have had a shitty economy like the Soviets did with class based socialism running out of rich people to redistribute from.
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