Titans guide to picking a good woman.

Phazael

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No it's the reality of sexual relations. Marriages have ups and downs. For one having sex with a lot of partners makes it less special. It becomes an act, not an expression of love and a special kind of closeness. This psychological effect is present in both multiple partners and masturbation to porn. Degeneracy is a problem, whether sexual, drugs, or general immorality. I'm not insecure in the least, I've had plenty of partners and am above average in bed. As I've matured I believe having too many partners has affected how I approach sex, and I've definitely seen this in my wife's views of sex. The stated number of 10 has been written about, I wouldn't say it's a hard and fast rule as much as a guideline to what you get when you go far over it.

See, here is where you kind of take a turn for the puritan (and also sneak in a humble brag). I would contend that building a marriage with sex as one of its primary pillars is doomed to failure, no matter HOW many dicks she rode. I actually think Khane has the right idea here, at the basic level. Numbers is not the issue, its a self esteem thing. If one partner feels insecure and either of them make sex a central feature of a relationship (rather than a nice perk), shit is going to go south no matter who was racking up the numbers. Thing is, people in general, are very insecure about relationships, at least when they are actually emotionally invested in someone. So from a practical standpoint, its more about what the right amount of dicking results in not being hung up about sex or feeling a lack of security in your relationships. As Khane has pointed out, this has changed over time and has purely to do with social mores, not some magical threshold.

As a society, we are pretty open about sex in the modern era. This can make people insecure because they know if they can't do their partner right, there are lots of other options out there. And then you have dudes who simply are tired of having sex weaponized against them who decide to just rub one out or hire a bang maid, to avoid the whole dance. People who have explored options in the past are more inclined to say "fuck putting up with this minor inconvenience" and move on, thanks to society largely being much more accepting of it. Divorce has basically been normalized and practically expected in places like the major cities. So between lessened social expectations and also the end of the single income household have increased both the ability and incentives for giving up on a relationship (or even having one in the first place). And in Khanes numbers a lot of those 2-3 partner high divorce rate people are the cheaters of that era and the couple of extra people are the ones they fucked around with, thus ending their relationship.

So why is 10 the magic number now? Well, think about how easy it is to get laid nowadays and remember the pussy slayers back in the old days. They would move on at the drop of a hat (as would extremely attractive women, in certain cases) because they could. The sub 10 dicking crowd are basically people who mostly are so flawed or insecure that they don't want to risk trying to find something better or different. Or they were brought up in the old school of thought on relationships and marriage (i.e. Mormons) and simply prioritize things other than sex for their relationships. Short version is when the midlife crisis hits the current generation, their experiences from banging like rabbits in college tell them they can get that need taken care of pretty easily and its one consideration for keeping a relationship together or healthy.

Want some anecdotal evidence, then look at recent events in the Divorce Thread. Wormie had a woman paying for him to go back to school that also did anything a man could ask for and he STILL traded her in for a younger version of the same thing.... because he could. Cut's woman pulled the ripcord the moment she got her first and only other dicking. Basically, alternatives that would be unthinkable, socially, are out there now and the ten plus partner club have the knowledge and confidence to take advantage of that, without a lot of the shame that once accompanied that. In the past, the person who sowed their oats locked shit down once they found something they liked, because there were social obstacles to doing otherwise.

Not to bash you here, but you pretty much sound like the church preaching on this point. I agree with your threshold (numbers do not lie), but not your reasoning, Titan. For once, Khane is the voice of experience here and has the direct insight.
 

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Wait, titan do you count the black dudes who raped you in the shower in prison in your total numbers?
 
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Having a broader range of experience is going to change your outlook on anything in life. But you're immediately assuming this makes you a degenerate. So marriage is a must for morality?

Your 10+ rule only became statistically true very recently. In the 80s, 90s and even in the aughts women with exactly 2 partners were the most likely to get divorced. More likely than women who were virgins and also more likely than women who had 10+ partners. That statistic is still true when compared to women who had 3-9 partners. Great. So what does that mean? Why is it that only recently are women with 10+ partners the most likely to divorce? And when might that change again? How do I know this is a good rule and that the statistic won't drastically change again in 5 years
But they aren't I just linked something that gives relevant statistics you just didn't read it. Those 3-9 do have problems, and a bigger statistical indicator is teenage sex.
 

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But they aren't I just linked something that gives relevant statistics you just didn't read it. Those 3-9 do have problems, and a bigger statistical indicator is teenage sex.

I didn't read it because you linked it while I was typing out my response. And after having clicked it I see that it cites other blogs with headlines like "THE DISEASES OF MODERN LIFE AS SEEN THROUGH THE SECULAR CONFESSIONAL" and suggests the actual studies (which I am pulling the numbers from) are just "spun" to make you believe the numbers aren't the numbers.

If you want to be taken seriously get that infowars shit out of here.
 
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See, here is where you kind of take a turn for the puritan (and also sneak in a humble brag). I would contend that building a marriage with sex as one of its primary pillars is doomed to failure, no matter HOW many dicks she rode. I actually think Khane has the right idea here, at the basic level. Numbers is not the issue, its a self esteem thing. If one partner feels insecure and either of them make sex a central feature of a relationship (rather than a nice perk), shit is going to go south no matter who was racking up the numbers. Thing is, people in general, are very insecure about relationships, at least when they are actually emotionally invested in someone. So from a practical standpoint, its more about what the right amount of dicking results in not being hung up about sex or feeling a lack of security in your relationships. As Khane has pointed out, this has changed over time and has purely to do with social mores, not some magical threshold.

As a society, we are pretty open about sex in the modern era. This can make people insecure because they know if they can't do their partner right, there are lots of other options out there. And then you have dudes who simply are tired of having sex weaponized against them who decide to just rub one out or hire a bang maid, to avoid the whole dance. People who have explored options in the past are more inclined to say "fuck putting up with this minor inconvenience" and move on, thanks to society largely being much more accepting of it. Divorce has basically been normalized and practically expected in places like the major cities. So between lessened social expectations and also the end of the single income household have increased both the ability and incentives for giving up on a relationship (or even having one in the first place). And in Khanes numbers a lot of those 2-3 partner high divorce rate people are the cheaters of that era and the couple of extra people are the ones they fucked around with, thus ending their relationship.

So why is 10 the magic number now? Well, think about how easy it is to get laid nowadays and remember the pussy slayers back in the old days. They would move on at the drop of a hat (as would extremely attractive women, in certain cases) because they could. The sub 10 dicking crowd are basically people who mostly are so flawed or insecure that they don't want to risk trying to find something better or different. Or they were brought up in the old school of thought on relationships and marriage (i.e. Mormons) and simply prioritize things other than sex for their relationships. Short version is when the midlife crisis hits the current generation, their experiences from banging like rabbits in college tell them they can get that need taken care of pretty easily and its one consideration for keeping a relationship together or healthy.

Want some anecdotal evidence, then look at recent events in the Divorce Thread. Wormie had a woman paying for him to go back to school that also did anything a man could ask for and he STILL traded her in for a younger version of the same thing.... because he could. Cut's woman pulled the ripcord the moment she got her first and only other dicking. Basically, alternatives that would be unthinkable, socially, are out there now and the ten plus partner club have the knowledge and confidence to take advantage of that, without a lot of the shame that once accompanied that. In the past, the person who sowed their oats locked shit down once they found something they liked, because there were social obstacles to doing otherwise.

Not to bash you here, but you pretty much sound like the church preaching on this point. I agree with your threshold (numbers do not lie), but not your reasoning, Titan. For once, Khane is the voice of experience here and has the direct insight.
I know for a fact you know the slippery slope. Since the sexual revolution of the 60's we have changed societal morals towards sex and it has had measurably bad effects on many fronts. You say that in this statement, the discussion needs to be about where we started and what better solutions may have been. People don't have the benefit of foresight, so we cannot have done more than guess how a complex web of interconnected ideas would play out. But we do have the benefit of hindsight. Ideally a society uses that hindsight to make adjustments backwards towards a better result. That is something we as a society are not doing, I believe it is because of the culture of progressivism that claims history is linear and each step forward can never be retraced because it is the new norm. What I am advocating is Conservatism, taking smaller steps in general, but also retracing our standards based on objective results. To say, cats out of the bag and can never be put back in is ludicrous and dooming to society. You can see where we are going on many issues and if we don't step up and start advocating cutting the cat back in the bag we will implode.
 

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I didn't read it because you linked it while I was typing out my response. And after having clicked it I see that it cites other blogs with headlines like "THE DISEASES OF MODERN LIFE AS SEEN THROUGH THE SECULAR CONFESSIONAL" and suggests the actual studies (which I am pulling the numbers from) are just "spun" to make you believe the numbers aren't the numbers.

If you want to be taken seriously get that infowars shit out of here.
Infowars is correct more often than not lately, clearly you aren't paying attention to the world.
 
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Khane

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Infowars is correct more often than not lately, clearly you aren't paying attention to the world.

That's your idea of a trustworthy source? "Correct more often than not lately". How correct was Alex Jones about Newtown?
 
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This thread isn't about marriage. It's about skewing the data with Anal. A topic I am passionate about.
 
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I know for a fact you know the slippery slope. Since the sexual revolution of the 60's we have changed societal morals towards sex and it has had measurably bad effects on many fronts. You say that in this statement, the discussion needs to be about where we started and what better solutions may have been. People don't have the benefit of foresight, so we cannot have done more than guess how a complex web of interconnected ideas would play out. But we do have the benefit of hindsight. Ideally a society uses that hindsight to make adjustments backwards towards a better result. That is something we as a society are not doing, I believe it is because of the culture of progressivism that claims history is linear and each step forward can never be retraced because it is the new norm. What I am advocating is Conservatism, taking smaller steps in general, but also retracing our standards based on objective results. To say, cats out of the bag and can never be put back in is ludicrous and dooming to society. You can see where we are going on many issues and if we don't step up and start advocating cutting the cat back in the bag we will implode.

So Spinal Tap was an allegory... Holy shit!

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Wait till he shows you his mensa card. Then you will really be impressed!
 

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Is there any way I can inspect my prospective wife to ensure that she's under the 10-penis-limit?
 

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This made me actually lol

Yeah that's what I meant by a humblebrag. Thing is I actually agree with a lot of what he is saying, when he is not regurgitating puritanical bullshit about sex, but a guy who has banged only ten women or less thinking he is good in bed.... based on what evidence exactly? Feedback from the limited number of women? Yeah that's a reliable source of information. And it has no bearing on what he is trying to argue, it just highlights an insecurity on his part.

Plus, a guy with a single digit tally trying talk about the mindset of people with a bigger history is actually worse than Khane handing out relationship advice in the Divorce thread because, at least Khane has experienced the relationship parts of that thread, so he has valuable information on things not directly related to committed relationships. I seriously doubt Titan has a real idea what its like to be like Khane or Brosyar and migrate from one piece of ass to another fairly effortlessly. When you want to get your dick wet at will and dodge the crazy, those are the guys whose advice I would put stock into. When I want to know how to keep a marriage on track, the guys who stubbornly make shit work more than a decade or two are the ones I take seriously. It is really as simple as that.
 

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Is there any way I can inspect my prospective wife to ensure that she's under the 10-penis-limit?

If there is a black dildo in her collection, that's a pretty solid indicator that the pussy has some wear on it.

If its bigger than her arm and is stored with a jar of lube, that snapper probably has almost zero tread on it.