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probably not streaming FF11 with no cam and never talking lol
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probably not streaming FF11 with no cam and never talking lol
Facebook can direct their already massive number of users to their stuff in their already established eco system. Microsoft is decentralized in comparison. The Xbox audience alone can't support a streaming site, if they're even pushing it on them
Noodleface
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Try me again. I have a cam, a nice mic, and not ffxi hahaha.
Although I had my.most.viewers with that game
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Aaron
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I still think that being a successful Twitch Streamer is a mixed bag and a risky business. My case in point is Arumba07. He started off doing Crusader King LPs and World Conquer tutorials as a side gig from his regular job on YT back in the day (7-8 years ago). He quickly grew in popularity so making LPs became his day job, then he moved to Twitch and made a good living off it. But then things started to go down hill a couple of years ago. His wife left him and took the kids, and from what I gathered streaming had something to do with it. She took them down to her family in Florida so he moved too to be close to his kids, but he knows no-one down there. He quickly descended into drinking and depression, and the fact that his audience only wanted him to play Paradox games (which he is a master of) but after 7+ years of it, and how shit new Paradox games were he ended up in a crisis, ended up saying a naughty word on stream and got banned. No-one has heard from him in a month.
Basically, you're a slave to your audience. If you don't play what they want to watch, they bugger off somewhere else and you lose your income.
Basically, you're a slave to your audience. If you don't play what they want to watch, they bugger off somewhere else and you lose your income.
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Quineloe
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Sounds more like he was a slave to his ungrateful family and his whore wife who wanted him out the house for work so she could nail the mailman.
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Watch some summoningsalt videos on YouTube. Once you realize the insane amounts of focus and repetition required to shave factions of a second off a run, the autism and subsequently being a tyranny makes perfect sense.
That's not being disparaging you legit need to be in the spectrum to be a speed runner.
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Noodleface
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Every job you're a slave to someone. Your boss, your customers, your audience. These people have a hard time separating the work though. They could easily stream 40 hours a week (or 30 and editing or whatever) and then just live a normal life, but they dont. They go to excess. They chase the cash coming in. Maybe they're chasing the feeling of people adoring them too, probably some of that.
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I do remember an interview Ninja gave where he said that the way the business works (and perhaps also due to his popularity), when he's not streaming he's literally losing money in the form of viewers/lost subs/etc. I would guess that's something that's more pronounced the more popular you are but for most I get the impression that if you choose to make streaming a 'career' it literally consumes you and not even so much because their chasing money but there needs to be enough cash coming in to make it viable.
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Its not only because of popularity. I see a ton of mid type streamers with like 1K-3K subs that are the same way. Take a look at Raiz form the PoE community. The fucker racks up to 1500-2K subs during league launch, but then this quickly diminishes all throughout the league down to the 500-600s sometimes. And the same shit, if he does not stream its lost revenue because hes not getting new subs. His viewership kinda follows the same pattern...
I look at some of the Destiny streamers and its the same shit, kinda reliant on the season of Destiny to be popular, if not viewership and subs goes down, but they still have to keep grinding, someone like iFrostbolt, which is 95% PvP streamer in Destiny, you can see how soul crushing it is some days when hes forced to play Destiny PvP during a shitty season. Game after game, match after match for 6-8 hours a day.
Worse one I saw was WishYouLuckk which is sort of a toxic mo-fo. a competitive PvP dude from Destiny. He got super popular during the days of Destiny1 PvP and trials carries, where he would carry 2 other people to victory in a competitive PvP type set up. You needed 7 match victories in a row and only 3 defeats allowed on a "card". or you start over. Yeah hes kinda toxic and a type A personality but thats just who he is. Anyway fast forward to today and hes gotten suspended from twitch a few times, fucking with his literal livelihood for toxicity. So he said fuck it and pretty much told twitch to fuck off with their partnerships and all that, and now streams on all 3 platforms every day and a patreon set up plus a daily dono goal to keep himself going, and so far so good. Plus he charges people $60-$100 to go on their accounts (recovs) and play competitive PvP in Destiny so hes making money that way too.
But at the end of the day, its hard to be sad for these dudes, shit they are getting paid thousands a month to play video games at home in their PJs.
I look at some of the Destiny streamers and its the same shit, kinda reliant on the season of Destiny to be popular, if not viewership and subs goes down, but they still have to keep grinding, someone like iFrostbolt, which is 95% PvP streamer in Destiny, you can see how soul crushing it is some days when hes forced to play Destiny PvP during a shitty season. Game after game, match after match for 6-8 hours a day.
Worse one I saw was WishYouLuckk which is sort of a toxic mo-fo. a competitive PvP dude from Destiny. He got super popular during the days of Destiny1 PvP and trials carries, where he would carry 2 other people to victory in a competitive PvP type set up. You needed 7 match victories in a row and only 3 defeats allowed on a "card". or you start over. Yeah hes kinda toxic and a type A personality but thats just who he is. Anyway fast forward to today and hes gotten suspended from twitch a few times, fucking with his literal livelihood for toxicity. So he said fuck it and pretty much told twitch to fuck off with their partnerships and all that, and now streams on all 3 platforms every day and a patreon set up plus a daily dono goal to keep himself going, and so far so good. Plus he charges people $60-$100 to go on their accounts (recovs) and play competitive PvP in Destiny so hes making money that way too.
But at the end of the day, its hard to be sad for these dudes, shit they are getting paid thousands a month to play video games at home in their PJs.
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Mizkif in particular got spammed on the LivestreamFail subreddit which has probably boosted his viewers a lot.
Quineloe
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wow, when you don't work you "lose" the money you would have made if you had worked. What a genius insight from Mr John Maynard Keynes 2.0 there.
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Wow, never seen her before, but what a entitled POS.
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