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Falstaff

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When these guys take long breaks I wonder how many people actually stop subbing to them or just let it ride... maybe a couple weeks doesn’t count.
 

spronk

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liriks been at 30k+/stream for 4+ years now, he's banked at least 20m if not more so yeah he could do jack shit the rest of his life and be fine. I was surprised to hear he's taking a break, saw the vod of his last stream (yesterday) and it just ends with a "cya tomorrow". I watch his stream on and off because he plays quirky weird games that i'd never wanna play but its cool seeing them instead of just pubg/fortnite/csgo all the time

the twitter msg he announces it is nice though as a bunch of people i've been watching over the last year all comment that they have his back and stuff - sherriff eli, giantwaffle, moonmoon, summit, etc

 
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Delly

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Lirik should have just said he is taking an extended vacation for some R&R. Everyone deserves some vacation.
 
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Araxen

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Lirik posted on this on his SR just a minute ago.

Hello • r/DatGuyLirik

I fucking hated this subreddit.

But now I get it.

(Also fuck you for making me write this 1000 word essay.)

Guys, I have been doing this shit for 5+ years. I decided to not follow a typical route and take a risk on my future.

Isn't that how life works? Isn't that how everything works, at least how society tells us? Aren't you taking a risk going to college and hoping it allows you to get your dream job?

Ask yourself this, how many of you are willing to drop your studies/work/main job now and instead try playing video games, while not being a pro, just for the fuck of it, and seeing if you can just.... do it for a living. Also, coming from an Asian, immigrant family and doing this.(if you are Asian you know what I mean)

I'm not some God figure. I'm a nerd, who is shy, who happened to just decide to stream and see what the fuck happens. Looking back, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. Maybe it was my addiction, or love, for gaming. I just always thought I had funny moments in video games so why not just broadcast it and see what happened? No fucking idea. I never even used a cam. Why do you think I hate reading games? Because, I can't be myself listening to some Witcher 3 NPC talk for 5 hours without you guys seeing my facial expression. To me, I feel as though you watch for the entertainer not the game. I get self conscious I guess, I don't fucking know.

I never thought I was entertaining nor did I even think to grow an audience this big. This is absolutely insane to think about. How the fuck did I even get here? Because, honestly, I don't know why people watch me.

But it's fine.

Because, why did I watch twitch streams back in the day? Because I liked chilling with a broadcaster and a community of like minded people who just wanted to kick the shit and have fun with gaming. Whether it is chatting/watching/background noise - it doesn't matter how you watch, it is just something there. Something to have on your second monitor while you do whatever the fuck you do, work/homework/game/porn(that would be weird, but not really in 2018)(One of you is naked right now reading this, you are weird.)

This year, has been a whirlwind on twitch. It took a mental toll on me for sure. Made me actually wonder and question my choices and what the fuck I was doing and made me extremely self-conscious. It also put me into this really shitty routine of streaming, eating bad, reading stupid shit, being in a bad mood, and regurgitating almost every day.

But now, it burnt me the fuck out. I have gone from chilling and kicking the shit with you guys to being self conscious of myself not being entertaining or up to the standards of other communities. Almost like I needed to constantly defend what I built constantly. It made me sour. It also made me realize that I needed a break and more focus on my life.

As much as I like streaming, it is all I do. Before you say you only stream 6-7 hours a day... streaming isn't just an on-air job. Like, be realistic here people. It is lirikFR lirik here, not fucking Game of Thrones HBO production staff. Jeez.

TL;DR: I love streaming still, give me a week to just get out of my slump. I'm thinking of getting a therapist, look at in-door rock climbing, eating healthier, just doing shit different. I'm trying to change and I need time. I want to be excited to stream every day and be in a good mood, I don't want to be stuck in a routine. I'm sick of view count and sub numbers. I need to not give a shit anymore. Consistency is key to streaming, but there is such thing as being TOO consistent. I want to miss you guys, just like I want you to miss me. I know a "big streamer" taking a long break is un-heard of but fuck it. I'm breaking the mold. Welcome to my world, I've never done this before and don't know if my channel is going to get fucked in the long run. But, hey... it is either that or keep getting burnt out!

Also, after this thread I'm going to test myself by not walking into this computer room for the next 6 days after I hit send. I need to just disconnect.

Sorry for typos, on phone.

I know working as a CSR rep for way too many years the shit eats away at your brain becaose of the constant bitching and it hasn't effected my mental health for the better. Yeah he's made millions, but he really needs to change shit up or he's going to go crazy. Good for him recognizing it before he becomes bitter and jaded about everything.
 
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Derkon

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I mean all this and he's only taking a week off? Everyone needs a vacation, I don't get what the big deal is.
 

Araxen

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I mean all this and he's only taking a week off? Everyone needs a vacation, I don't get what the big deal is.

He should take off longer, but he has this rep of being Twitch's most consistent streamer. It shouldn't matter, but it is what it is. He really should just do 8 hours five days a week. Moonmoon does that to keep his sanity. Moonmoon does split up his day into 4 hours shifts to grab Euro's and US peeps.

I will say though he has gotten kind of lazy. He used to do stuff like this:
Judge Lirik

I find it funny, but he never does stuff like this anymore.
 
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Noodleface

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The problem is he's a kid and he's seeking validation and feeding into it.

He should just say he's going on vacation and come back later. That's what a normal well adjusted person would do. He's probably never had a real.job. I'd imagine his social skills are seriously lacking.

As for $20M I sort of doubt that. I think I read he was pulling estimated $500k/year. Even someone like PewDiePie was only pulling $4M (only!!!!) A year during his height. Not that 500k is anything to shake a stick at.
 
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Araxen

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Reckful made 500k last year with a fraction of Lirik's audience(10k). Lirik is a multimillionaire easily. Donations on Twitch are pretty massive.
 
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ronne

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Someone like Lirik pulls 7 figures annually off subs alone. Would surprise me if he was pulling north of 3m/year counting all the donations.
 
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Araxen

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There is a couple stream called NrageGaming out of Detroit I went to drunkenly one night. They average about 100-112 viewers and they are well over that in sub count. Whales being able to gift subs now helps streamers even more now. I joined drunkenly watching the guy side of the stream (i forget his name) play PUBG and got gifted a sub while talking in their chat. If this was 20 years ago, Furor or Tigole would be making bank off streaming Everquest. Furor especially from at least his forum persona would have raked in the cash. People love players that rally against the devs.

Overwatch League starts tomorrow, the next big Overwatch streamer will be the one that calls out Jeff and the balancing problems that come from that game. There is a one-trick(a person who only plays one hero regardless of the situation despite if it's fucking over his team) player, called Stevoo(he one-tricks Symmetra who isn't very good on offense and plays her on offense), he has repeatedly gotten reported and gotten temp banned. He has built a following/audience over it because Jeff has come out saying one-tricking is ok despite fucking your team over. The next big Overwatch streamer who has an over the top persona will feed on that and make it big calling this bullshit out. Most Overwatch streamers just ignore it right now.
 
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Cybsled

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Furor and Tigole wouldn't have streamed anything raid related. Back then, strats for raids were highly guarded secrets.
 
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Araxen

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Furor and Tigole wouldn't have streamed anything raid related. Back then, strats for raids were highly guarded secrets.

Million dollars > EQ raid secrets. EQ raid leaders have sold out for less.
 
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Pyros

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Million dollars > EQ raid secrets. EQ raid leaders have sold out for less.
There isn't million of dollars for this shit though, you don't get 30k viewers because you stream the last boss in a mmo, even with how many people play wow, most streams don't get good numbers even during new patches, the only ones that do are when a new expansion launches and some other non-wow streamer comes in and streams wow. Plus it's more profitable to actually get the world first, but streaming progress means you're giving your competition free information, especially if you're slightly ahead of them or figured out a better way to deal with x mechanic or whatever, and if that means losing your world first, then shit's been completely worthless. Also get a lot of youtube views on the world first kill video.

Ultimately, people don't really want to watch progression. Wiping for 16hours a day isn't fun to play and isn't fun to watch. They want to watch the kills, and maybe a highlight reel of the fails, but otherwise they want to watch entertaining people play entertaining games, and raid progression isn't really that, especially since the streamer has to be pretty focused to actually get any progress done, can't read chat, can't thank every fucker who donate because it means so much to them and welcome to the retarded-but-cool-guys-club.
 

slippery

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I dunno how much people follow things, but before xmas there was a thread on reddit about a little boy in the hospital who really loved watching Shroud asking when he was going to be streaming so he could watch from the hospital. Shroud reached out to them after seeing the thread because he was on vacation and not streaming, and I guess at least talked to the boy and made his day. They posted this video on reddit yesterday. Pretty awesome shit all around


Santa Shroud comes to florida. • r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS

 
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Araxen

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There isn't million of dollars for this shit though, you don't get 30k viewers because you stream the last boss in a mmo, even with how many people play wow, most streams don't get good numbers even during new patches, the only ones that do are when a new expansion launches and some other non-wow streamer comes in and streams wow. Plus it's more profitable to actually get the world first, but streaming progress means you're giving your competition free information, especially if you're slightly ahead of them or figured out a better way to deal with x mechanic or whatever, and if that means losing your world first, then shit's been completely worthless. Also get a lot of youtube views on the world first kill video.

There isn't million of dollars for this shit though, you don't get 30k viewers because you stream the last boss in a mmo, even with how many people play wow, most streams don't get good numbers even during new patches, the only ones that do are when a new expansion launches and some other non-wow streamer comes in and streams wow. Plus it's more profitable to actually get the world first, but streaming progress means you're giving your competition free information, especially if you're slightly ahead of them or figured out a better way to deal with x mechanic or whatever, and if that means losing your world first, then shit's been completely worthless. Also get a lot of youtube views on the world first kill video.

Ultimately, people don't really want to watch progression. Wiping for 16hours a day isn't fun to play and isn't fun to watch. They want to watch the kills, and maybe a highlight reel of the fails, but otherwise they want to watch entertaining people play entertaining games, and raid progression isn't really that, especially since the streamer has to be pretty focused to actually get any progress done, can't read chat, can't thank every fucker who donate because it means so much to them and welcome to the retarded-but-cool-guys-club.

Lirik has gotten zero worlds first and is a multimillionaire. Whenever he plays WoW it's because people will carry his ass and he makes no bones that they are helping him out doing it. The MMO days of being worlds first are long gone. MMO's are a dead genre for the most part with WoW being the solve survivor. Isn't the Asmonggold one of the top WoW streamers and all he does is talk all the time and be somewhat fun to watch.

The EQ days are a very different beast. World firsts are the end game and Twitch back then would be a different world. Can you imagine Furor streaming and saying fuck off Brad for this unfinished bullshit? It's the exact kind of drama that brings in views.
 

Noodleface

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Asmongold, towellie and Quinn are the top. Lately sodapoppin has been playing and pulling ~30k viewers.