Valve adds paid modding

Good

Makes you wonder how much of the shitstorm could have been avoided just by proposing the idea first and getting feedback, consulting with the community and modders and finding an implementation that actually worked for everyone.

Of course you know it's just a temporary roll back. I doubt they've given up on pursuing this possible revenue stream and will now just bide their time to find another way to take advtanage of it. And if not them, someone else will.

I still don't get the rage on this. I hopped in my old Wildstar guild's mumble last night and all I heard for the 5 minutes I was there was two neckbeards yelling about the integrity of the modding community and rights infringement. I like mods as much as the next guy but paying people should only motivate them to make better mods I would think.

I saw a huge thread about that GOG launcher coming. There needs to be real competion for marketshare to prevent idiot stuff like this. Origin never runs real sales. Uplay is fuck. Humble bundle app doesnt work on my droid ( steam app is horrible too.) there needs to be a real diversity out there.

We have the power.

QUICK. Everyone demand free hats!!!!

Seriously. Good. Maybe they were just shockingly mis/uninformed.

There is no problem with the idea itself. I'd have paid for my Civ4 mods and Project Nevada. I want more of that, not less. And if it's ten bucks for more, it's ten bucks for more.

hodj_sl said:

It was a decent idea, with completely ham fisted implementation that only served to splinter the mod making community, basically.

Its not the premise, but the execution, that was in error.

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Talking about ham-fisted, the 24 hr mod refund policy was a scam as well. "Refunds" went into your Steam wallet, so Valve still got to keep your money...

(edit: "ham-fisted" was probably a little too kind with regard to that little gem)

Argarth_sl said:

Talking about ham-fisted, the 24 hr mod refund policy was a scam as well. "Refunds" went into your Steam wallet, so Valve still got to keep your money...

(edit: "ham-fisted" was probably a little too kind with regard to that little gem)

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Also i was reading you get market banned for 7 days after a refund..so 24 hour return policy was hogwash.

Nah, they need to add a tip jar or something similar to patreon.

I'm glad they went back on this though. Good for them.

It will definitely return, but yea hopefully with a better implementation, which for me was the problem in the first place. There's plenty of people that want to support modders (look at the ex-Simcity guy making mods for Cities:Skylines, he's making money at it). But collaboration in modding is a big thing still and that's where a lot of the best mods come from still, and throwing this head-first at one of the biggest, if not THE biggest, modded games in history is definitely a reality check. It sounds like a good idea on paper but too much is already established for that to ever pan out the way they did it, and Bethesda taking a fucktarded chunk of the cash soured the whole deal. Valve should have a cut, the publisher/dev should take asmallcut, and the modder should get the bulk. The work on the game for the devs is done. This is literally a free lunch for them, and Bethesda tried to turn it into free $400-per-person black tie dinners. The single "official" mod they released to launch the Steam workshop was a "high-res" texture pack that was worse than texture packs already available on the Nexus.

I appreciate the modding capability that the FE games have, but Bethesda have not exactly gone out of their way to "support" it. Hopefully, a better implementation of this mod market comes to fruition and it pushes more developers to open up their games to modders, and allows the best of the best mods to thrive.

Gilgamel_sl said:

I still don't get the rage on this. I hopped in my old Wildstar guild's mumble last night and all I heard for the 5 minutes I was there was two neckbeards yelling about the integrity of the modding community and rights infringement. I like mods as much as the next guy but paying people should only motivate them to make better mods I would think.

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It was all implemented horribly and it opened a HUGE Pandora's Box of ethical issues. Someone could easily steal an existing made player mod that didn't belong to them and sell it in the market. A few people tried to take mods that were just simply ripped assets from other games like Aion MMO and Witcher 2 armor/weapon models and put them up as a paid mods. I don't know if it is still up but thanks to steam's workshop getting absolutely flooded with shit, it's hard to prove who made what and if all the assets are yours. It's also stupidly simple to swipe a mod from The Nexus and claim it as your own on the Marketplace. Valves non-existent admins and customer service is making regulating their marketplace VERY hard.

Thanks to the market being unregulated and how much people hate paid mods, some people are uploading mods that look like an amazing expansion of content for a high price but upon downloading it, you realize you just got duped and it doesn't work as intended. For games like Skyrim, there's also a lot of modder programs that were suddenly behind a paywall to access like Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE) which a lot of mods required it's use. There is also a lot of Skyrim high-end mods that use a lot of player made mods and assets together which would of made future player made mass overhaul mods possibly very expensive to even start.