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Caliane

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Yea knives and wand are both completely cucked by lack of pierce. Whip just doesn't cover enough area, was kinda hoping it would attack in a cross or X shape or something when it evolved. Garlic damage falls off mega hard as well but the knockback aura is basically immortality so garlic is still S tier imo.

Garlic is largely trash. it's useless mid-late game. its only value is the very early game, as it 1hit bats/sludge, etc. This CAN put you above the curve, giving you a few levels up, thus weapon upgrades, for the weapons that do scale. thats its one value. however, late game its a wasted weapon slot.

knives is mid-tier. its massive boss killing dps. you control its targeting, so can focus it where you want it to. it gains piecing eventually. t7 iirc.
wand is high tier. its also strong boss killing dps. its targeting is controllable as well, since it targets nearest. its less dps then knives, but has high knockback. it pairs extremely well with book, garlic, and water. aoe circles around you. anything that manages to get through, dies to wand. same with lit ring, tracer, to lesser degree, as their aoe coverage is more spotty. but great in their own rights.
 

ronne

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Garlic isn't about damage past like 15 minutes or so, just the knockback aura. If you've got the cooldown book basically nothing will ever hit you because the garlic aura pulses so much.

Knives get +1 pierce but that isn't nearly enough for the final few minutes. Same issue for wands. The DPS isn't the issue, the issue is just the volume of mobs you have to deal with for the final bit making anything that doesn't fully pierce or is otherwise just AE very, very bad.
 

agripa

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If this is your jam check out Tap WIzard 2, it is a clicker but more longevity.
The maker of vampire survivors ripped off a f2p Korean mobile game called magic survival that is supposed to be really good too.
 

Caliane

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Magic survival is very obviously the origin, given the name.
It is, clearly, when playing as well. That said, despite lots of claims of just being a rip-off.. its really not. theres many key differences in design, exp drops, mob behavior. upgrade system. and just being on pc with controls. magic survivals touch screen controls suck balls.

I tried tap wizard 2. what cancer. its crazy as it DOES have the basic gameplay of single stick auto-shooter, and some of the mob behaviours, skill targeting, etc.. but, the idle part of the game just fucking kills it. it takes what vampire survival does in 30 minutes...and spreads it out over literally 60 fucking days.. It just progresses way too slow.

day9 compared it to Crimsonland. but thats a twinstick shooter. lots of roguelike twinsticks.

I haven't player it personally, but from what I can tell, Deathstate is probably the closest pc game. singlestick bullethell roguelike.

I'm not sure if it gets the targeting elements that this does. or if its more like a classic roguelike enter the gudgeon, where you have 1 gun at at time.
 

Caliane

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the art drama seems to be ongoing. seems the art pack, he got the sprites from, is not available any longer. likely... due to stolen sprites.
the devs response is really tepid. just "ill edit them a bit more". and this has been an issue since it first came out, and hes really not focusing on getting it fixed, asap. how much this is blowing up, it wouldn't be surprised if he hits a massive shitstorm lawsuit.

honestly some proactive dev out there should copy his copy, and beat him to the punch. new art, etc. its not like this thing didn't take like 3 days to make.
 

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New rogue lite game that's all the rage lately. 3$ on steam, can't go wrong. Game is sweet especially for 3$


ABOUT THIS GAME​

Vampire Survivors is currently a time survival game with minimalistic gameplay and roguelite elements.
There's no place to hide, all you can do is try to survive a cursed night and get as much gold as possible for the next survivor, before Death inevitably puts an end to your struggles.
 

Vanessa

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Is it's base appeal to gamers to be THE longest survivor? Do they rank minutes (hours?) survived in game or do people post about their times?
 

Vanessa

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Also, could Konami (or whatever conglomerate took over that brand name from long ago) sue for IP over this if this *really* took off?
 

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Amod Amod
 
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Cybsled

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Also, could Konami (or whatever conglomerate took over that brand name from long ago) sue for IP over this if this *really* took off?

Maybe - if they actually gave a fuck about the Castlevania brand lol
 
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Keep trying to get Morty to work, I think lightning ring with axe and wand items to morph would do more damage then bone.
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Vanessa

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Maybe - if they actually gave a fuck about the Castlevania brand lol
Ya, that and Silent Hill... lots of money thrown down the toilet with those two franchises in the past decade.

SOTN style game with like 5x the content on modern graphics? Takemymoney.jpg
 

Hatorade

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Ya, that and Silent Hill... lots of money thrown down the toilet with those two franchises in the past decade.

SOTN style game with like 5x the content on modern graphics? Takemymoney.jpg
Bloodstained is what we got, it is damn good.
 
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Adebisi

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Garlic&
Wand&
Axe&
Bibles&
Knives&
Spinach&
Area buff&
KABOOM
 

Caliane

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santa water evolve seems weaker then just regular santa water.
 
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Adebisi

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When you get to that certain point in the game where you're like AWE YISS, ROOMBA MODE!
 

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this is weirdly fun. i went the half hour on the library but can't seem to get it down on the garden. need to play with more weapons i guess.