Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)
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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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The difference was that you knew where zone lines were. In Vanguard, you'd just randomly lock up for a while, and god help you if you were in combat and happened to cross chunks near a corner. It's something you could eventually plan around, but most people never made it that far before "FUCKING THING SUCKS" set in.
Also, hardware made such a crazy big difference, I can understand why some people instantly threw it in the trash. Sometime during beta (or alpha? wtf knows anymore), I had a decent rig but it was still a single-core, and chunking was maddening. I could definitely see it being a complete deal-breaker for normies. At some point I upgraded to a core2duo, and my problems virtually vanished. Considering that they had basically zero testing resources, I can totally believe that they had no idea how shit of an experience it was going to be for the average player.
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Nirgon
YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE
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I was playing around on here and never saw brown everywhere. It might be some kind of mad cuz Brad derangement. Or I havent been to the right zone. Idk.
Xinux
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We have a troubleshooting guide if anyone has issues also Troubleshooting Guide - Vanguard Wiki the wiki on vgoplayers is just that for players you can see the current status of all abilities for classes and information on learned abilities.
Going between chunks should be pretty quick now since awhile back I added in dynamic loading of chunks which basically as you move through chunks the surrounding chunks will startup if they are not started and also shutdown if there is no-one located in a connecting chunk. Now chunks that have rift stones or starting chunks are set to static so those are always running regardless if someone is in them or not. Now if you log out in a chunk that is not set to static you will experience a delay when you go to log in as that chunk starts up.
Going between chunks should be pretty quick now since awhile back I added in dynamic loading of chunks which basically as you move through chunks the surrounding chunks will startup if they are not started and also shutdown if there is no-one located in a connecting chunk. Now chunks that have rift stones or starting chunks are set to static so those are always running regardless if someone is in them or not. Now if you log out in a chunk that is not set to static you will experience a delay when you go to log in as that chunk starts up.
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LachiusTZ
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Kharzette
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There was alot of mystery about chunking back in the day. Like what could they possibly be doing to make it this slow kind of mystery.
I dug into it with performance tools (probably vtune, this was ages ago) and found that most of the time was compiling shader code. The post might be on this board somewhere even.
So yea compiling shaders, and I don't think UE4 had any streaming capability == a hard freeze while it compiles every little different combination of shader, and there were alot. I imagined them making a different shader for every little piece of ground clutter in the towns, with "hey this jar is extra shiny" special shader. UE5 and up "cooks" assets and gets them ready to stream.
As much as I hate consoles, they are the reason we have great streaming today. That and galaxy brain code gods like cb's rants
I dug into it with performance tools (probably vtune, this was ages ago) and found that most of the time was compiling shader code. The post might be on this board somewhere even.
So yea compiling shaders, and I don't think UE4 had any streaming capability == a hard freeze while it compiles every little different combination of shader, and there were alot. I imagined them making a different shader for every little piece of ground clutter in the towns, with "hey this jar is extra shiny" special shader. UE5 and up "cooks" assets and gets them ready to stream.
As much as I hate consoles, they are the reason we have great streaming today. That and galaxy brain code gods like cb's rants
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Hateyou
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Kithani
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Hateyou
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LachiusTZ
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popsicledeath
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Same here. Had some group drops and rare crashes and chunking was still a thing, but for the most part the core2duo seemed very compatible with Vanguard and I luckily didn't have many major technical issues.
Noob areas at launch were a shit show and slide show, of course. I remember someone at some point saying internal info showed a ridiculously high number of players never made it to level 5. Implying major technical issues. Then some large percent of accounts never came back to try without the crowds, which eased technical issues a lot.
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I got a lot of stuff off of the auction house including some flying mounts a long while ago
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I was clicking through the various races in the emulator and saw that the fox hobbit people also had an extra planar origin, but alas its just backstory, they start out with the wood elves after their home world was destroyed by the xenuwhatevers. At least you see/fight those in the Isle of Dawn.
I played through a few other character intro's and some of them are interesting, like Orcs was pretty cool, but yeah it just spread the world way too thin with actually 19 different races the pop was just too spread out. Hindsight 20/20 and all but if they started with way less races, had designed them all to be cool as shit, then drop you all off at lvl 5 washing up on the Isle of Dawn for the community building aspect this game might of had a chance. Well technical problems aside.
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its been a while since I played, this shit came out in like 2007...but was it always this, janky? Or is this just artifacts from it being an emulator. like no ability to prekey/queue abilities? I get some of the movement/zaxis stuff is due to it being an emulator but I didnt remember the animations and ability queueing to be this shitty
Hekotat
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I'll be on tonight around 7/8 CST for some groupage.
Also, turn on the scrolling combat text option and screw around with some of the UI options, there are some good things to change. I especially like the spell effect increase option since some spells are difficult to see.
Also, turn on the scrolling combat text option and screw around with some of the UI options, there are some good things to change. I especially like the spell effect increase option since some spells are difficult to see.