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I'm most of the way done with Book 2, and I will say it gets better...but it gets a LOT worse first
Two chapters in a row of Ryoka doing exceptionally stupid shit nearly killed it for me. Whom you haven't met yet, at that point.Everyone says it gets even better later. If nothing else, there is a shitload of content.
Ritley
Karazhan Raider
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Mudcrush Durtfeet
Hungry Ogre
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Anyone read The Gods Are Bastards? The author threw in the towel which is too bad, it was entertaining when he could get it together enough to actually write.
Ukerric
Bearded Ape
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"Now that everyone is at the tournament, let's see how long it will be before they run into each other"
TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Whoever recommended Knight and Smith... that is well written. Just got caught up on it.
HOWEVER
HOWEVER
Tessa's explanation seems like a major afterthought. Being born a chosen one or whatever is nothing new to this genre. But what exactly was their great plan here? If Tessa was sent to be his Smith in the first place the level of fuckup here is pretty astounding. He was already 18, years older than other normal bondings (at age 16). Even Tessa's brother bonded to another Heir earlier. Everything we're shown is that the bonding is encouraged early on. So much so that Tessa had been training for it since she was 7 years old. Hidden from Old Boy's presence the entire time.
I get the fears of him getting killed but what were they going to do? Let his ass be a city guard doing fuck all? If Gustav and the King of Ragora knew they weren't the only ones. Now, I get that nobody could have possibly predicted that he was going to randomly bond with the Princess of Venos but still. Why take a chance where they could lose control like this? Like Orin getting killed in Myrin as a guard or some other stupid shit.
We're going to need a lot more Heir backstory here for any of this to make much sense. Tessa says that the grand plan was to bring him to the Halls of Justice as her knight once her father figured out a way to do this without them going apeshit about it. Well, King of Ragora had 11 years to ponder this issue all the while concealing from everyone exactly where his daughter was? WTF was he doing? lol.
For how well the political intrigue and court affairs are written in this (surprisingly well) and how deeply ingrained the fear of the Heirs is the Ragoran King's court should have sniffed something out too. So where were they?
Still totally worth the read but this stuck out to me.
I get the fears of him getting killed but what were they going to do? Let his ass be a city guard doing fuck all? If Gustav and the King of Ragora knew they weren't the only ones. Now, I get that nobody could have possibly predicted that he was going to randomly bond with the Princess of Venos but still. Why take a chance where they could lose control like this? Like Orin getting killed in Myrin as a guard or some other stupid shit.
We're going to need a lot more Heir backstory here for any of this to make much sense. Tessa says that the grand plan was to bring him to the Halls of Justice as her knight once her father figured out a way to do this without them going apeshit about it. Well, King of Ragora had 11 years to ponder this issue all the while concealing from everyone exactly where his daughter was? WTF was he doing? lol.
For how well the political intrigue and court affairs are written in this (surprisingly well) and how deeply ingrained the fear of the Heirs is the Ragoran King's court should have sniffed something out too. So where were they?
Still totally worth the read but this stuck out to me.
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re: knight and smith- BOOK 2 prologue and ch 1 are out.
Interesting.....
from what was said in the prologue (entire prologue is tessa POV from ~11 years ago)
supposedly, there is only one Heir at any one time......and Tessa's Brother is smith to the princess that is the Current Heir..
Orin is Heir #2............
and ya we need A LOT of background on wtf an heir is......
bets on orin and elora-eventually- opening the spires in the capital.........
Interesting.....
he said NO to Tessa
from what was said in the prologue (entire prologue is tessa POV from ~11 years ago)
supposedly, there is only one Heir at any one time......and Tessa's Brother is smith to the princess that is the Current Heir..
Orin is Heir #2............
and ya we need A LOT of background on wtf an heir is......
bets on orin and elora-eventually- opening the spires in the capital.........
the capital is built around these tall tower spires..
chapter 2
i am pretty sure it is mentioned later on no one has been able to open them not even the people in the palace in contrast to that quote where the commoners think that the king's family knows what they do/are/can enter.
chapter 2
i am pretty sure it is mentioned later on no one has been able to open them not even the people in the palace in contrast to that quote where the commoners think that the king's family knows what they do/are/can enter.
I read the first two chapters of that one, but I've found it a bit hard going so far, as it's basically a blizzard of unfamiliar names, clans, factions, groups, politics, ratings, types, cultivation levels etc.
Not helped by a weird quirk where the author is writing in third person but referring to viewpoint characters as 'she', which occasionally makes it hard to tell who is actually talking during dialogue. E.g.
'Hi', said Sue.
'Hi yourself', she said.
Does this settle down a bit as it goes ? I am not sure I'll be able to follow it without a reference manual otherwise ;p
Ukerric
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There is a reference manual down the line (just checked, it's placed at the end of book 1, but includes spoilered sections for the following books).
And actually, no, it stays that way for a while. I was utterly confused about things for at least half a dozen chapters before things started to gel in my mind. "okay that's the sister, that's the friend from the hunter bureau... that's the other friend? okay that's the other, ah no that's the sister in fact, if they don't say the family name, I can't remember..."
The author said he wanted to heavily edit the first chapters, but I haven't checked how much he did.
Gask
Bronze Baron of the Realm
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No it doesn't, it also doesn't help that these characters are pretty flat in the personality department. The five main perspectives can basically be summed up this way: the guy with the magic sword who says um a lot, older herb girl who leads, the interchangeable sisters, the pissed off blonde. Later on they get flavor i.e. this one has this many crazy voices in their head and this cultivation manual and/or this physique but aside from that they have just as little personality as they ever did at the beginning. A large part of the problem is that with so many perspectives very little ever actually has a chance to happen apart from action sequences and some info dumps.
As for the story... once it gets going it reads like an endless action sequence. The main characters bumble from one death defying encounter to the next while suffering horrific injuries so often and from which they recover so quickly that it becomes impossible to take the "danger" seriously past a certain point. As for the politics in the overworld it's a morass of characters that aren't really relevant yet and probably won't be for a long while. When they become so it would most likely only be to serve as a foil for the now super powered up main 5 characters once they escape from their anomaly dimensions.
If you want to know if you'll like reading it but find the beginning boring then you should jump ahead a few chapters to where the main group of young character gets separated while being pursued in the mountains.
Another note is that the author likes to play up the "oppressed medieval women" schtick from time to time while also forgetting that almost every single supreme cultivator that has throw their weight around so far has been a woman. The men on the other hand have mostly been either the minions of these women or antagonistic fodder characters. Oh and the author decided to bestow "older herb girl" and "pissed off blonde" with a trauma which is generally only used to fill pages with and to brow beat "sword boy who says um a lot" with from time to time. So that gets a bit tiresome.
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Xarpolis
Life's a Dream
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I just read the first 10 chapters of Magic-Smithing. I really dig this series so far. I'll plow through all the free chapters (60) in the next week or so. Very entertaining.
Mom
Lvl: 32
HP: 1050
Sta: 573
MP: 200
Vit: 105
End: 32
Str: 35
Dex: 82
Senses: 45
Mind: 73
Magic: 20
Clarity: 20
Extra Stat Points: 0
Total Stats: 412
Dad
Lvl: 36
HP: 1410
Sta: 1113
MP: 40
Vit: 145
End: 69
Str: 120
Dex: 53
Senses: 38
Mind: 17
Magic: 4
Clarity: 1
Extra Stat Points: 0
Total Stats: 447
Girl
Lvl: 37
HP: 1000
Sta: 666
MP: 500
Vit: 100
End: 50
Str: 50
Dex: 50
Senses: 50
Mind: 50
Magic: 50
Clarity: 50
Extra Stat Points: 96
Total Stats: 546
She's crushing them with stats. She's a lot like Grid from Overgeared in that way.
Mom
Lvl: 32
HP: 1050
Sta: 573
MP: 200
Vit: 105
End: 32
Str: 35
Dex: 82
Senses: 45
Mind: 73
Magic: 20
Clarity: 20
Extra Stat Points: 0
Total Stats: 412
Dad
Lvl: 36
HP: 1410
Sta: 1113
MP: 40
Vit: 145
End: 69
Str: 120
Dex: 53
Senses: 38
Mind: 17
Magic: 4
Clarity: 1
Extra Stat Points: 0
Total Stats: 447
Girl
Lvl: 37
HP: 1000
Sta: 666
MP: 500
Vit: 100
End: 50
Str: 50
Dex: 50
Senses: 50
Mind: 50
Magic: 50
Clarity: 50
Extra Stat Points: 96
Total Stats: 546
She's crushing them with stats. She's a lot like Grid from Overgeared in that way.
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Ukerric
Bearded Ape
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That's a common theme in all those reincarnated as babies stories. Apparently, being self-aware from birth tends to give you all kind of advantages.
i like magic smithing.
good- initial world building, good characters etc.
it is cute, i wonder what the reaction is going to be when SHE finds out she is the granddaughter of the owner of the trading company and vice versa, when the grandfather finds out that the smith is his granddaughter.
good- initial world building, good characters etc.
it is cute, i wonder what the reaction is going to be when SHE finds out she is the granddaughter of the owner of the trading company and vice versa, when the grandfather finds out that the smith is his granddaughter.
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