What do you do?

Snagged 15 minutes with my outgoing VP to get a sanity check on a big project. I figured now, with virtually nothing on the line, he'd be most likely to give me an honest answer. Apparently it was the only "big idea" problem anyone has approached him with all week.

Got some great feedback, followed up with "now taking off my company hat, if you're ever feeling underserved or frustrated here, here's my personal email. Feel free to reach out."

I'm pretty happy (interview with a Valley tech firm tomorrow notwithstanding), but it's good to know I've made a reasonable impression and might have a contact worth falling back on one day.

I told my boss I am 100% not staying on at the end of the contract on Sep 25th. Accepted the position at Commerce. Now BAH is giving me an offer, same pay and title and all that shit without having to work in DC, so much better commute. But BAH is a larger company, probably not as cool with all my family issues. Which are mostly under control but i do like a smaller company (like the spot at Commerce) that is understanding of family. Commerce gig is good for 3-5 years, BAH only has a solid position for me for like 6 months, but they have a bench so it isn't like I would be out of work, I would work for the same guy on other projects and ultimately fall into a pentesting/assessment gig for NRO. At Commerce it's more of an engineering/implementation gig. I'm torn. I already accepted the gig at Commerce, BAH for all the bad shit I hear about them sounds like they are really stable and take care of people.Pay is the same at either spot so that isn't a factor. Benefits are comparable. Large company vs small company. Either way I'm pissing off the management, small company already has me signed and large company thinks it is a done deal. #firstworldproblems.

I have to make up my mind like tomorrow. Really not sure what I want to do. Long term, I am not sure which role (pentester/sec engineer vs vuln mgmt/sec engineer) is better careerwise. Probably a wash.

I'd go with your gut on this one. No one is going to be upset by you saying you're accepting another offer. It happens all the time.

chaos you never know. I told my boss about my son's speech issues and he told me his son had the same issues and take any and all time I needed to take care of it, and we're a big company.

These guys at this staffing company recently found me an OK spot at the Pentagon, good money and a good position, but doing HBSS bitch work which, no thank you. When I turned them down stating I had another offer, they got SUPER buttmad. This 19 year old kid at a staffing agency is lecturing me on the phone about how hard they worked prepping that position for me, and how I should find someone to fill it because now they had this open position. I'm like "... ok guy".

A night's sleep and I am leaning heavily towards just taking the Commerce job and running shit there. From what I know so far it sounds like an opportunity to come in and make a huge impact, and that will look great going forward. I'm just nervous about the change, I guess.

Contractor position at Dept of Commerce. Not a gs spot. It's an engineering spot, basically from what I gather their vulnerability management program is dildos and so it's an opportunity to build it from the ground up, tools and everything. I want to expand it into getting experience with other stuff (log analysis tools, ids, firewall config, etc)but that comes after the fire is put out.

chaos said:

These guys at this staffing company recently found me an OK spot at the Pentagon, good money and a good position, but doing HBSS bitch work which, no thank you. When I turned them down stating I had another offer, they got SUPER buttmad. This 19 year old kid at a staffing agency is lecturing me on the phone about how hard they worked prepping that position for me, and how I should find someone to fill it because now they had this open position. I'm like "... ok guy".

A night's sleep and I am leaning heavily towards just taking the Commerce job and running shit there. From what I know so far it sounds like an opportunity to come in and make a huge impact, and that will look great going forward. I'm just nervous about the change, I guess.

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Hah I had a IT Recruiting Firm pass off my resume to someone for a job interview.

At the interview that Recruiting Firm had placed their logo at the top of my resume (and didn't change ANYTHING else) and fucking up all my margins and headers. I passed on the job and the recruiter called me after the interview and got SUPER BUTTMAD that I was passing up an opportunity to work for this company.

He said basically the same thing. "Blah blah blah we worked so hard to get this position for you.."

Fuck that guy.

Was it Insight Global? They did that same shit to my resume, pissed me off.

Recruiters are mostly pieces of shit. Don't worry if you anger them.

Yeah recruiters are so dumb. Try to give me pointers on how to interview and shit. They don't even know what the job entails half the time.

Recruiters always replace your personal info with their logo. This is to prevent the company from poaching you directly when the recruiter sends them resumes.

I've worked with good recruiters and then really shitty ones. The guy who got me the job I'm starting next month was kind of a clown, though I still liked him. At first he was kind of almost like a salesman trying to talk me into taking a lower salary because this position was on the best contract they had and all this shit... Once I told him to cut the shit though and either help me get what I'm asking or I'll look elsewhere he was pretty cool and did wind up getting me what I asked.

I've never had luck with recruiters, always done it myself. I will deal with internal recruiters at a company though, they want to get you hired there.

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Hah I had a IT Recruiting Firm pass off my resume to someone for a job interview.

At the interview that Recruiting Firm had placed their logo at the top of my resume (and didn't change ANYTHING else) and fucking up all my margins and headers. I passed on the job and the recruiter called me after the interview and got SUPER BUTTMAD that I was passing up an opportunity to work for this company.

He said basically the same thing. "Blah blah blah we worked so hard to get this position for you.."

Fuck that guy.

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Someone did the same to me. Cut off the top portion with the contact info and slapped their logo. I complained to the guy doing the interview and he called the agency right there and told them to fuck off he was hiring me anyway and if they wanted to bitch he would stop using them for the shop which was a large of guys. I got offered more money too because apparently they were paying the company $8/hour to pay me thru them.

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Was it Insight Global? They did that same shit to my resume, pissed me off.

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It was a company called Timberhorn and it was for an Exxon-Mobil subsidiary. Recruiter called me like 5 times to prep me on how to interview and even his boss called me to ask if I was ready for the interview. Got kind of annoying.

Then I saw my resume across the table looking fucked up as hell. I even said something about it to the interviewer.

The only reason I had to go through the firm was because that company was hiring contract-to-hire.

I even asked the guy interviewing me why they just can't hire me and why go through the trouble of paying some IT firm and he gave me some speal about "what if I'm not a great fit or I don't like it then it's hard to let you go blah blah"

I told that interviewer I was not interested in potentially being let go in any situation but I could see where he was coming from as an interviewer.

They offered me the job as contract-to-hire the next week and I turned it down.

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