Sludig
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Agree to disagree, plot isn't so idiotic as the rest but I still don't like the modern audience casting and hairstyles and shit.
Whats rustling your jimmies?
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Sludig
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In hindsight ds9 has some issues. But I think anything after tng/ds9 are just not really star trek. You might have a interesting or decent episode here or there but it just doesnt really feel the same. Some of it may just be the mixing in more modern language, need to try and add all the zingers etc, sassy bitches for no reason etc.
Like the first new jj Abrams explosions everywhere movie kinda won me over just for a visual spectacle and just an action movie in trek clothes, but that got stale and worse writing by the second movie.
Siliconemelons
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The problem with SNW, Academy etc. is regardless of how /they/ themselves are crap or not crap- they are all tangents of Discovery - heck even Picard, even if not directly.
Discovery /really really REALLY/ destroyed Trek. It destroyed Trek so much that even the JJ universe got taken out with it, people kinda would have liked to have had the 4th JJ-verse movie- but nooooo , the Discovery and "Discovery-esque" movies and shows were just THAT BAD.
Discovery /really really REALLY/ destroyed Trek. It destroyed Trek so much that even the JJ universe got taken out with it, people kinda would have liked to have had the 4th JJ-verse movie- but nooooo , the Discovery and "Discovery-esque" movies and shows were just THAT BAD.
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I would quibble that even if it wasn't very good most of the time, voyager was "real" star trek.
I didn't even give the jj abraham's version a chance because they were rebooting and changing everything. You had so many fucking enterprises you could have made your story about, why shit all over kirk's enterprise? Then along came Strange New Worlds and proved my point.
Sludig
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I actually forgot to add young dumb me liked Voyager. But I actually tried to rewatch it a year or two ago. And way too much kinda current day politics baked in fairly often. I was just young enough at the time to not really see some of it for what it was. I guess you could call it a successful integration of wokeism but still sucking to the base content vs anything in the last 10 years that destroys the base content at all costs for pushing their political messaging.
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Voyager had some pretty stupid episodes and story arcs overall, but it had some pretty damned solid episodes, too. I was actually looking forward to 7of9 running the Enterprise in a new show, but instead those luminaries gave us that fucking joke of a show in Academy.
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It should have been Jeri Ryan in black leather scourging the universe in revenge for what they did to her kid/son in Picard.