Wildstar Launch Thread - Server: Stormtalon | Faction: Dominion

Bondurant

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If the trade-off is good commentary for clicking, it's worth it.
Most of these "Internet videogames journalists" videos, since they're being directly paid with ad money and / or goodies, are terrible, uninformative and highly deceptive. They don't even care enough to take people who are actual gamers, they just took some random new tech hipster guy with Rayban Wayfarers, Converse shoes and Grunge shirt, who probably got some history or sociology degree and who thinks Angry Birds is the pinnacle of modern gaming, pretending that's how everyone rolls nowadays. Watching a featured gameplay video from some anticipated game made by a "Internet videogames journalist" is as fun and informative as reading a chair user guide written in German.
 

Abefroman

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Commentary is usually bad in these videos. Wildstar should let me do some commentary.
If you ever do a video and say something like " It has dynamic events where the player has the ability to change the world!!!" I will kill you.
 

Qhue

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The commentary is pretty bland. I suspect it was written and re-written too many times.
 

Nola

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So the "weekend" stress test only lasted for a few hours, servers went to shit and they called it quits?
 

Kreugen

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Last GPU refresh was 3 Titans thats 3k when Haswell drops means ASUS Rampage FIV that 400 and the Haswell extreme proc is 1K that 4400 right there. Wish I would have waited for the 780 but I didn't I got my panties ol hot and bothered I bought one then said fuck it and bought 2 more. Last refresh was less but it goes between 3k to 5k.
Holy fucking overkill, what in the fuck are you even playing? Everything out there is barely scaled up from shit made to run on old crappy consoles. I have a five year old first-gen i7 and a 560ti and nothing runs choppy maxed out at 1920x1080, and shit like COD runs at over 100+ fps at all times.

Hell, I look forward to the new consoles so that I can finally get games utilizing tech from five years ago.
 

Quaid

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Holy fucking overkill, what in the fuck are you even playing? Everything out there is barely scaled up from shit made to run on old crappy consoles. I have a five year old first-gen i7 and a 560ti and nothing runs choppy maxed out at 1920x1080, and shit like COD runs at over 100+ fps at all times.

Hell, I look forward to the new consoles so that I can finally get games utilizing tech from five years ago.
He's getting 45fps in Crysis 3
 

Bondurant

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Commentary is usually bad in these videos. Wildstar should let me do some commentary.
Oh yes I forgot about the oblivious commentary which is most of the time 99% copypasta from presskit with a "heybuddy" touch, because they're not journalists, they're our fellow gamers, right. They're praising the gameI know it sounds harsh because everyone's gotta make a buck to eat, but these glorified reporters are mediocre at best, when they're not being fully deceptive because they have the publisher's balls surfing on their tongues. It's like going to Mexico and pretend to be a doctor because you know how to cut meat. Speak of Mexico, to be honest I have more respect for Tijuana whores than these guys, because at least in Tijuana, the job gets done.
 

Nola

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I'm hoping the Cryptic devs don't tear this game apart for PvP. I'm tired of seeing MMO's PvE gameplay get balanced, nerfed, retuned or whatever you want to call it for the sake of PvP. But I got a gut feeling it will happen.
 

Abefroman

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I'm hoping the Cryptic devs don't tear this game apart for PvP. I'm tired of seeing MMO's PvE gameplay get balanced, nerfed, retuned or whatever you want to call it for the sake of PvP. But I got a gut feeling it will happen.
Due to the way we design and balance WildStar you should not experience nerfs/buffs to your PVE experience because that ability is over/underpowered in PVP (and vice versa).

In WildStar, we balance all of our combat around a base creature we call "Bob". This entity has statistics that are what we expect the 'average' player to have at each level in the game. This means if we balance Bob so that a player kills it in 30 seconds, then we can assume that an average player will then kill another average player in 30 seconds. This also means that if an ability is overpowered in PVE, it's probably overpowered in PVP and will need to be addressed.

We also have some tools on the Crowd Control (CC) side of gameplay that will allow us to make CC's feel different in PVE than they do in PVP.

Due to our Breakout Gameplay system, we can make the effects on players be different than creatures. For example; when you stun a player they will be able to fight to get out of the stun faster, but a creature does not get this opportunity


http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/com...ms_working_on/
 

Nola

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Due to the way we design and balance WildStar you should not experience nerfs/buffs to your PVE experience because that ability is over/underpowered in PVP (and vice versa).

In WildStar, we balance all of our combat around a base creature we call "Bob". This entity has statistics that are what we expect the 'average' player to have at each level in the game. This means if we balance Bob so that a player kills it in 30 seconds, then we can assume that an average player will then kill another average player in 30 seconds. This also means that if an ability is overpowered in PVE, it's probably overpowered in PVP and will need to be addressed.

We also have some tools on the Crowd Control (CC) side of gameplay that will allow us to make CC's feel different in PVE than they do in PVP.

Due to our Breakout Gameplay system, we can make the effects on players be different than creatures. For example; when you stun a player they will be able to fight to get out of the stun faster, but a creature does not get this opportunity


http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/com...ms_working_on/
Thanks! That's reassuring news.
 

Ender4212

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In the 2 hour video/interview linked a couple pages back they go into more detail on this whole "Bob" thing. Being a non-expert, to me it made perfect sense but I have no idea how it'll play out or if it's a common practice.
 

Xevy

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Just found out at 7:11pm I got into stress test. It ended at 7pm. Le sigh. Hopefully since I entered my code and everything I'm still going to get in to closed testing.

Don't worry, I'll update you guys with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NDA'd.
 

Bondurant

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Thanks! That's reassuring news.
Since gear is dedicated by design (with stats only being useful in PvP) you WILL have inconsistencies. A soon as people gonna figure what stat is best, you will have mandatory abilities balance between PvE and PvP. Like some random CC stuns the PvE target for 10s when that CC stuns the PvP target for 5s, crit triggering procs or heal being less powerful. This can too affect combos, synergies and rotations. We're talking about a game with dedicated gear here, you'd be a fool thinking balance is designed around target dummies. You can call it Bob, Vladimir, Mein Fhurer or even Mom, it's gonna be the same balance circus than any other MMO. The only question here is "how competent will they be ?". The "promising MMO" graveyard is full of goodwill design and encouraging ideas.

I'm quite optimistic about Wildstar because I like th idea of a themepark MMO with guild warfare, PvP instances, arenas, PvE raids and seamless world, ?-la-WoW you might say, but when i'm checking my shelf, it's full of promising MMO, like Age of Conan being old school mounted PvP, Warhammer being DAoC2, Aion being Lineage 3, Rift being WoW 1.5, Darkfall being SWG 2 and SWTOR being WoW with lasers and bad writing. The best PR Wildstar currently got is the major spindoctoring disaster TESO is currently breeding. On the left side we have a fallen MMO God, Matt Firor, running a MMO Hollywood style, spending money like a mad cunt, with North Korea PR and no actual gameplay, relying on boxes sales, possibly scheming dramas over leakers being actual developers, being Evil at full force. On the right side we have Wildstar, a MMO made by former WoW vanilla Blizzard guys, ran by a decent person (Gaffney), being nice on PR with funny vids, releasing beta patch notes, not giving a fuck about actual leaks, being the Good Guy here.

TLDR : What's reassuring is TESO's own demise. If they'd really put their developing management in competent hands, we'll currently be praising Zenimax like the new Jesus. Hype is everything.