Wildstar Launch Thread - Server: Stormtalon | Faction: Dominion
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Ya that's my only complaint with their design. Factions are terrible. They were not a good idea in wow. They've always been a poor design choose to force player fighting when any game designed around guild vs guild fighting handles that 1000000 times better (see eve and or shadowbane)
If you want to have "story" factions you can have that but don;'t make it actually affect how players can group.
It all depends on their end game design, like in any game. They have 20 and 40 man raids and heroic dungeons. They have a LFD tool but not a LFR tool. There is only one level of difficulty for raids. There are 40 man warplots.
But what's there for non-guild oriented people? Housing? Arenas? BGs? Maybe, but I have yet to see what they plan on doing for people that aren't raiders. We'll see. Maybe they don't care.
It will also come down to how fast their iteration process is.
Ugh, I hate not being able to talk to the opposing faction. I didn't know they were doing that here until now. It also kind of disappoints me that they chose their biggest fans (I think I read this somewhere) for the earlier beta phases. I can only imagine any complaints being met with 100 fanboys telling them to shut up and go back to X game instead of some really good discussion about game mechanics. This is of course pure speculation, but I'm sure we've all seen what I described in other betas before. I hope it's not the case here.
Abefroman
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Well one of the things at end game they talked about is that is when the personal story and world arc really begins. They have mentioned that telling the story of the world in raids is just not a good way to do it and that they are having it where you learn the story arc of what is going on at the end game, but not in raids. I have no problem with the two factions warring against each other. It provides a good back story. Do not segment the player base when it comes to communicating with each other and grouping. I fucking hated that in WoW. Don't force friends to have to pick one side or the other to play with each other.
Edit- To be clear they have not set in stone not being able to talk to the other faction, it was something they discussed in that pax video presentation to the press. They did say they would take feedback on it.
Edit- To be clear they have not set in stone not being able to talk to the other faction, it was something they discussed in that pax video presentation to the press. They did say they would take feedback on it.
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Rift churned out raid content faster than anyone to date and still didn't have the success they were hoping for. So there's still some undefined "that" element to this beyond just content generation. Even though I'll totally admit its very important.
My initial impressions of Wildstar (not in beta) are that it'll have "that" to a level beyond what Rift did. I'm expecting a pretty immersive world. I hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment.
Yeah, hard-coded factions have tempered my desire to play the game. I'll still check it out, but that shit needs to go.
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Two factions is also a misstep. Dunno why devs have it ingrained in their brain that there has to be 2 factions, instead of just letting the conflict that arises between guilds, and groups of people to happen naturally within a FFA type system.
ESPECIALLY when they have these fucking warplot things. If you want conflict in the world from factions have that for story and spice and we can all be special snowflakes who work with the enemy when needed. Story breaking game play is always a bad choice.
Hopefully this is the type of feedback they are getting. 2 factions is a mistake. If they want two huge warring factions then just make them NPC factions and let the players play how they want. Cutting your population in half has always struck me as a strange move. Think of all the groups that would of been available in WoW if the Alliance and Horde had been free to play with each other. Each side would of gained thousands of potential group/guild mates.
Of all the things to copy from WoW this is not one of them. Let the hardcoded factions system die already.
Of all the things to copy from WoW this is not one of them. Let the hardcoded factions system die already.
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Well I hope not ! Level should just be a gauge to "Con" something. That is a certain level toon has approximate stat levels... Gear / abilities should provide increases to that which yields greater power of course... I never liked "level" locking stuff with to hit etc ... Just seems to artificial to me.
Abefroman
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The one thing that is pissing me off the most about Carbine is them not having Public boards. I shouldn't have to go to fucking Reddit or some other fan sites to see what the developers are saying. Arena Net did the same shit with GW2 GURU. How fucking hard is it to set up a message board. Fucking Trannys can do it in a day.