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World of Warcraft: Current Year
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I have honestly been burned to many times on their promises to get hyped about this.
Every year it’s lessons were learned and less RNG, and we hear you, and lessons were learned, and we’ll make classes feel more like classes, and lessons were learned, and squish this and squish that and lessons were learned. Not buying it.
Every year it’s lessons were learned and less RNG, and we hear you, and lessons were learned, and we’ll make classes feel more like classes, and lessons were learned, and squish this and squish that and lessons were learned. Not buying it.
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xzi
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So wait until tomorrow when they actually talk about those games systems.
The M+ change alone is enough to make me have SOME desire to do m+ though. I already said it here, but I got a belt 8 weeks in a row from my mythic chest and I've not done a single m+ since like a month before classic launched because of it.
The M+ change alone is enough to make me have SOME desire to do m+ though. I already said it here, but I got a belt 8 weeks in a row from my mythic chest and I've not done a single m+ since like a month before classic launched because of it.
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The problem with AP was in its infinite, and exponential gain to reward structure.
There's going to be a secondary XP system, it's just how its packaged, where it's limited -- how much you can get per day, and how much you need to "grind" or "do" in order to make up the gap, given any catchup mechanics for folks who don't sign in every fuckin' day.
I'm thinking artifact weapon traits, but seriously trimmed down to special abilities, and you get your one ability for that month after the first day, then spend your anima on shit like transmog, pets, toys, mounts, etc etc. At least, that would be the least painful way of implementing it for me.
The tower is still going to be islands repackaged, and give you the most anima at higher levels. Watch.
There's going to be a secondary XP system, it's just how its packaged, where it's limited -- how much you can get per day, and how much you need to "grind" or "do" in order to make up the gap, given any catchup mechanics for folks who don't sign in every fuckin' day.
I'm thinking artifact weapon traits, but seriously trimmed down to special abilities, and you get your one ability for that month after the first day, then spend your anima on shit like transmog, pets, toys, mounts, etc etc. At least, that would be the least painful way of implementing it for me.
The tower is still going to be islands repackaged, and give you the most anima at higher levels. Watch.
I remember suggesting this exact change a year or so ago, though my suggestion included squishing characters and exiting expansions down with each new one for the new one and its levelling to take place of it.
The new 1-10 exerience is a good idea as well.
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I kind of hope it doesn't take the same amount of time to get max, because the game is bland leveling and making it just have smaller numbers won't make a difference.
The party sync thing is certainly cool as fuck already, if you have someone you enjoy levleing with.
The party sync thing is certainly cool as fuck already, if you have someone you enjoy levleing with.
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Sylvanas was the Ranger General of Quel'thalas and sister of Alleria who was a hero unit in Warcraft 2 and it's expansion.
She was in charge of the entire defence against the Scourge and Arthas raised her as a punishment for being so effective in delaying him.
Bolvar was a random guy with no backstory made up for WoW to be Anduin's guard in Stormwind. He was given fation leader stats and soloed Onyxia's guards on the attunment quest, so players somewhat liked him. Similar to Saurfang although he has an epic brother in a book.
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Bolvar also lead the charge against the gates of Icecrown, last standing in the undead gassing, before taking dragon's breath to the face, then drug up to the top of the tower and chained as a trophy by Arthas. That's a pretty big step up in background story, but yeah, no where near Sylvanas, but treated with the same level of... What's the word for it, respect, but also really not..?... After we inevitably kill/redeem Sylvanas, all we have left of the original characters is what... Jaina...? Thrall. Khadgar. I mean, Illidan is still corner pocketed, too. What's her face who guarded him before he was crystallized, the Warden.
Expac after this will very likely go back to dragons.
Black.
Dragons.
Expac after this will very likely go back to dragons.
Black.
Dragons.
I don't think I can get over the level squish to be honest.
Intellectually I realise that it doesn't make any practical difference, but the thing with rpgs, even MMORPGs is that the illusions matter - heroic strike can be literally exactly the same thing as 'sword attack one', but it's just better anyway. They've just been systematically removing things and grinding down 'things that don't matter' in the name of streamlining and for me, I think this is actually the tipping point.
It doesn't help that the expansion is also completely missing any kind of hook other than islands v2 ( because getting two other people who could put up with that shit was too hard, you can now do it by yourself ).
Intellectually I realise that it doesn't make any practical difference, but the thing with rpgs, even MMORPGs is that the illusions matter - heroic strike can be literally exactly the same thing as 'sword attack one', but it's just better anyway. They've just been systematically removing things and grinding down 'things that don't matter' in the name of streamlining and for me, I think this is actually the tipping point.
It doesn't help that the expansion is also completely missing any kind of hook other than islands v2 ( because getting two other people who could put up with that shit was too hard, you can now do it by yourself ).
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I don't mind squishes, but Blizzard is going to fuck this up large because they can't math anymore.
The real question is why they are bothering fiddling with something that's been in the game for 15 years? Leave it the fuck alone and make some new stuff, I say.
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In the current state of WoW leveling from 1-120 you get barely any new skills as you gain levels, you can go up to 80 levels without things like a silence (hi balance druids), without any means to counteract certain mob abilities and you only get talents at set intervals with large level gaps in between. You don't even get anything new from 100-120. If they do the squish right they'll be able to fix all that. If they do it wrong it's just kinda more of the same.
I don't see a level squish as pandering to streamers or high end raiders or the like. I see it as a necessary change to get new people interested (60 levels is a lot more palateable than 130 to a new player) and to hopefully make the leveling process more dynamic for existing players. We'll see how it's implemented but I'm in favor of it.
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They've fiddled with the leveling experience every expac since cataclysm. Talent system changes, ability/spec changes, changes to leveling speed, changes to level scaling. Leaving the leveling experience alone since vanilla would have made this game unbearable to play after any extended break. Could you imagine trying to level to 120 at classic leveling speeds? Or wanted to switch mains? Fuck that.