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Lanx

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Why the fuck would anyone WILLINGLY live under a fucking socialist party? HOA's are just 1940s Germany lite.
i mean now that i think about it, i'm the only one in my entire community w/ a window ac, lulz (we walk around the hood), i must be breaking something
 

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Why the fuck would anyone WILLINGLY live under a fucking socialist party? HOA's are just 1940s Germany lite.

Who else is going to do the important civilizational building work of making sure grass stays under 3" and unsightly garbage cans stay behind an obscuring structure!?
 
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Let's see... to answer a question, it's an 8x8 shed is my warehouse where I store shit (now, since I built the shed a couple weeks back).

And it does have a window unit AC In it. There is functionally one real window in our house it would fit in (it's big), but that window is in the master bedroom. The one room we really want cooled if the main AC goes tits up.

On the aging note...
When you're young, your life is wild and care free.
When you're old, you have a favorite pharmacy.
... and you get pissed when your favorite grocery store changes what is what on what aisle....
 
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a window unit is less than 130bucks, you should have one as a backup

i mean it just makes sense, if it gets too cold, ppl buy those $100 floor standing heat units you can move around, why not have a window ac you can whip out in case of emergency
I have a window unit in my game room/office as it's far easier to run it during the summer than try to cool this space with the house AC. In a pinch I can open the door and set up fans to make the house tolerable and I live in the desert.
 

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Midea just had a recall on some of their older models. Werent draining properly (even when leveled according to directions) and were pushing mold into the air. I started the recall process a few days ago. Too bad too, really liked it. Quiet and reasonably efficient. I'll probably get another eventually, but had to go to lowes and buy a normal window type for the immediate use.
Well FUCK I just checked and my unit applies to the recall. I have had zero problems with it though. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle to go through the recall. I have an air monitor in this room and in the hall (built into the smoke/CO detector).
 

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Any upgrades I do to heating/cooling on any building henceforth will be done by mini-splits. They are awesome. You can put a thermostat in each room, everyone controls their own heat/cool, cheaper in the long run, and I love them. You can mount all the exterior units on your roof, and you won't hear them hardly at all.

I'm old. I want my bedroom as I want it. My kids can keep theirs warmer if they want.
 
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Any upgrades I do to heating/cooling on any building henceforth will be done by mini-splits. They are awesome. You can put a thermostat in each room, everyone controls their own heat/cool, cheaper in the long run, and I love them. You can mount all the exterior units on your roof, and you won't hear them hardly at all.

I'm old. I want my bedroom as I want it. My kids can keep theirs warmer if they want.
What was the cost? I priced a mini-split in this room and they wanted $3K , and this was pre-COVID. I thought that was outrageous. This room *may* be 12'x13'.
 

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What was the cost? I priced a mini-split in this room and they wanted $3K , and this was pre-COVID. I thought that was outrageous. This room *may* be 12'x13'.

The more rooms you do, the more cost effective it is. You can get a single exterior unit and put as many as five indoor blowers on a single unit. So if one room is $3K, 5 rooms is likely $4k. I'm fortunate enough to be able to buy them at cost and can install them myself, so doing my 7 bedroom house completely would probably be about $12k. It's a lot at the outset, but it will use a great deal less energy and will last longer than a new furnace. I can get cheaper units that are essentially air conditioning only for my main floor. I've put under floor heating on the entire main floor with independent thermostats in most of the rooms. The house runs off two furnaces currently, and replacing both furnaces would be more $ than that and doesn't offer the heat/cool zone flexibility. Most of my kids are out of the house, so I don't have to heat/cool their rooms unless they're going to be home, or guests are using their rooms.
 
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Does that in-window shit work in a horizontal sliding window? Seems like it is constructed to take the weight in a specific way, so turning it sideways is probably bad. Might fuck up the cooling process too with wherever the environmentally friendly freon substitute reservoir is located.
 

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Any upgrades I do to heating/cooling on any building henceforth will be done by mini-splits. They are awesome. You can put a thermostat in each room, everyone controls their own heat/cool, cheaper in the long run, and I love them. You can mount all the exterior units on your roof, and you won't hear them hardly at all.

I'm old. I want my bedroom as I want it. My kids can keep theirs warmer if they want.
The funny part about mini-splits is just try to price out the same options in a central unit, like multi-zone, multi-speed compressor and air handler, reverse cycle heating (mini splits do all of this natively, even cheap ones!) and you're talking insanely high-end central units $15-20k installed. Mini splits are awesome, and if you use the in-ceiling cassette air handlers they can be hidden just like ducted A/C as well.
 
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The more rooms you do, the more cost effective it is. You can get a single exterior unit and put as many as five indoor blowers on a single unit. So if one room is $3K, 5 rooms is likely $4k. I'm fortunate enough to be able to buy them at cost and can install them myself, so doing my 7 bedroom house completely would probably be about $12k. It's a lot at the outset, but it will use a great deal less energy and will last longer than a new furnace. I can get cheaper units that are essentially air conditioning only for my main floor. I've put under floor heating on the entire main floor with independent thermostats in most of the rooms. The house runs off two furnaces currently, and replacing both furnaces would be more $ than that and doesn't offer the heat/cool zone flexibility. Most of my kids are out of the house, so I don't have to heat/cool their rooms unless they're going to be home, or guests are using their rooms.

Maybe you know this if you're working on them. Are these mini splits worth fixing at all? Summer just started here and my unit only works intermittently, sometimes it cools then it starts throwing error codes and stops working. Worth paying someone to look at it or should I just go ahead and order them to install a replacement right away?

It's a 2007 unit so it's old but it has not let me down until this year.
 
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The funny part about mini-splits is just try to price out the same options in a central unit, like multi-zone, multi-speed compressor and air handler, reverse cycle heating (mini splits do all of this natively, even cheap ones!) and you're talking insanely high-end central units $15-20k installed. Mini splits are awesome, and if you use the in-ceiling cassette air handlers they can be hidden just like ducted A/C as well.

I got a traditional split unit from Mr. Cool that is a multi speed linear compressor - it is so odd how the system works as it is not like a traditional system.

Generally central AC is "Its cooling + fan, or off, or perhaps just the fan - when cooling you want a ~20degree split between output and ambient."

My variable compressor basically has 3 "levels" that equate to about a 10-12 degree split, 14-17 and when it really wants to go, it hits the traditional 20-24 degree split. Fan has 3 speeds also. I just stuck the thing on "auto mode" and set the temp - it still takes getting used to how it works as my brain has been wired to think "if its not 20 degree split its broken"

It has a heat pump (aka reverse cycle heating) and all that.

Cost me 4k bought from Lowes.com , cousin picked it up with me in his truck, he helped place the new handler - I did the rest - about 300-400$ tools, and a solid 1 full day of work.
 

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Maybe you know this if you're working on them. Are these mini splits worth fixing at all? Summer just started here and my unit only works intermittently, sometimes it cools then it starts throwing error codes and stops working. Worth paying someone to look at it or should I just go ahead and order them to install a replacement right away?

It's a 2007 unit so it's old but it has not let me down until this year.
Completely depends whats wrong with it, could be a leak or low refrigerant which is easily fixable or it could be something that requires replacement. The good news is they're modular and easy to replace components.
 
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I got a traditional split unit from Mr. Cool that is a multi speed linear compressor - it is so odd how the system works as it is not like a traditional system.

Generally central AC is "Its cooling + fan, or off, or perhaps just the fan - when cooling you want a ~20degree split between output and ambient."

My variable compressor basically has 3 "levels" that equate to about a 10-12 degree split, 14-17 and when it really wants to go, it hits the traditional 20-24 degree split. Fan has 3 speeds also. I just stuck the thing on "auto mode" and set the temp - it still takes getting used to how it works as my brain has been wired to think "if its not 20 degree split its broken"

It has a heat pump (aka reverse cycle heating) and all that.

Cost me 4k bought from Lowes.com , cousin picked it up with me in his truck, he helped place the new handler - I did the rest - about 300-400$ tools, and a solid 1 full day of work.
Is it like this one?

 

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Yes, but I did the "hyper heat" one - the main difference between (back then at least) the universal and hyper heat was

1) hyper heat can heat pump - heat with lower outdoor temperature (not a concern for me...in florida...)
2) included hardware, compressor AND labor warranty WITH DIY install using their pre-charged line set. Again, at the time, the universal only offered hardware warranty to DIY installs.

Mr. Cool for a long time got (rightfully so) slack as they offered different warranties based upon if it was DIY install or professional install - their full warranty used to require full professional install- and it was only partial if you DIY it... kinda dubious when they advertise DIY as a big thing for them and their products.

It was about 600$ more at the time for the same size/line set - v Universal for Hyper Heat - I figured, any call I would need to do on the thing would result in 600+ $$ of labor lol
 

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Yeah but there is 0.0 chance I could do the install myself. Back just will not handle it and I'd be stupid to even try it. I did tell my wife that if our central AC goes out again I am not spending more $$$$ to get it fixed.
My issue with mini-splits is I'm old enough that I remember when they came on the market and they were nothing BUT problems. I hope they have all that worked out now.

Anyway it doesn't matter. Our AC unit is working fine (so far). BTW went to Midea recall and I have a new drain plug coming. Someone is supposed to call to arrange a repair in place. Not sure it applies to me anyway as I live where we rarely get rain and the outdoor humidity rarely gets in the double digits.
 

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Does that in-window shit work in a horizontal sliding window? Seems like it is constructed to take the weight in a specific way, so turning it sideways is probably bad. Might fuck up the cooling process too with wherever the environmentally friendly freon substitute reservoir is located.
I'm putting them in Tuff Sheds and all the windows are horizontal sliding windows. There was no option to get one that slid up and down. However, there were options to get perfectly square windows so after it was built, we just popped off the frame and rotated it 90 degrees.

The next one I put in might be too big for how far the window opens. If it is, we're just going to remove the window and add some plywood to cover the rest of the hole. Fuck windows. I only added the window for the AC.

Edit: Also, no, don't rotate the AC. I'm sure that causes problems neither of us can think of.
 
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Maybe you know this if you're working on them. Are these mini splits worth fixing at all? Summer just started here and my unit only works intermittently, sometimes it cools then it starts throwing error codes and stops working. Worth paying someone to look at it or should I just go ahead and order them to install a replacement right away?

It's a 2007 unit so it's old but it has not let me down until this year.

It's absolutely worth getting someone out to look at it.
 
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