2018 NFL Offseason Thread -- Philadelphia Burning Edition

jooka said:

knao .... he burnt every bridge last year, browns included.

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Perhaps, still think he'd say no to them.

jooka said:

To say no, means a job offer. Like McDaniels thinks he dum did gewd.

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Considering who some of these teams are paying, their GM's have no right to talk about "putting the best players on the field".

McDaniels is a whole extra level of stupid. Says yes, then no.

jooka said:

My favorite Gronk memory doesn't even happen on the field.

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The only logical reason Gronk doesn't have 17 kids is that he got a vasectomy at age 12.

either that or he is.. smart and wears condoms? being smart in that manner basically = no kids until he WANTS kids.

while not foolproof, they work really damn well.

That JimmyG contract...heavily front loaded.

up to 42.6 mil year 1. 18.6 year 2.

7 million bonus
28mil roster bonus
600k workout bonus
800k per game roster bonus
6.2 million base pay.

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NFL records

• Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
• Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
• Most touchdown receptions by a tight end, season: 17 (2011)
• Most touchdowns by a tight end, season: 18 (2011)
• First tight end to lead the league in receiving touchdowns (2011)
• Most receiving yards by a tight end, season: 1,327 (2011)
• Most offensive touchdowns in first two seasons: 28 (Tied with Randy Moss)
• Seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 5 (2010–12, 2014–15)
• Consecutive seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 3 (2010–12)
• First tight end to have 3 seasons with 10+ touchdowns and 1,000+ receiving yards (2011, 2014–15)[71]
• Most career postseason receiving touchdowns by a tight end: 9
• Most seasons of 1,000+ yards receiving by a tight end: 4 (tied with Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten)

Yeah, he's such a scrub. Tons of way better tight ends in the league at the moment, they're everywhere.

zombiewizardhawk said:

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Bold indicates career high

NFL records

• Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
• Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
• Most touchdown receptions by a tight end, season: 17 (2011)
• Most touchdowns by a tight end, season: 18 (2011)
• First tight end to lead the league in receiving touchdowns (2011)
• Most receiving yards by a tight end, season: 1,327 (2011)
• Most offensive touchdowns in first two seasons: 28 (Tied with Randy Moss)
• Seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 5 (2010–12, 2014–15)
• Consecutive seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 3 (2010–12)
• First tight end to have 3 seasons with 10+ touchdowns and 1,000+ receiving yards (2011, 2014–15)[71]
• Most career postseason receiving touchdowns by a tight end: 9
• Most seasons of 1,000+ yards receiving by a tight end: 4 (tied with Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten)

Yeah, he's such a scrub. Tons of way better tight ends in the league at the moment, they're everywhere.

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Gronk has legit WR numbers.

TE is a hard position to grade because there are so many facets to it vs say, WR where your job is to run and catch.

Having said that, Gronk is fucking great and he would be great with any QB in the league. 1st ballot HOF IMO.

Hoss said:

I saw gronk hosting a comedy show a couple weeks ago. His set was good enough to make me think he'd do well as an actor.

But lol at the HOF and best ever talk. He's not even the best TE playing right now, much less of all time. Longevity and availability matters. If it doesn't then we can pretend Bo jackson and Tony Boselli were the best ever too.

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Ogden was better than Boselli, at both Tackle and commercials.

Fuck it, if they front loaded it its even better for the 49ers. His performance last year warranted a big payday at the QB position, and if he was ever going to command big money it would be now, as his stock is at its peak for the time being. So give him 40 million in year one, and now you owe him roughly 40 more guaranteed, which is fine given 2019 should be a prime year for that team to make a playoff run. By year 3 they will only owe him about 18-20 million depending on how well he has played up until that point. If they perform well year 4 and 5 will be a bargain, and if things go well for him as a player, he will be a Pro Bowl caliber passer who is considered and elite QB and be only 28 or 29 years old.

The only way this turns out to suck is if he has a terrible year next year. That will put a huge amount of pressure on him, and Lynch and Shanahan to perform well in 2019. They are all under contract together for the next 5 years so Lynch knows if Jimmy fails he is losing his job. Which is a good thing, as he has already done a great job and now with this much capital on the line he is going to work very hard to build a great roster to be able to compete and warrant such a huge payday for his guy.

Thats insane though the amount of money that kid is going to get this year. He played a great 5 games for them last year, and turned the entire franchise around, setting multiple franchise records along the way. He literally played himself into 100 million dollars in just 2 months.

edit: Gronk is the best TE ever and there really is no debate. He is actually underrated IMO, as Brady gets all the credit for the Patriots success, but since 2010 he has basically been their entire receiving offense. Hernandez had a little stretch of success himself, and when Gronk went out with a knee injury, but if the Patriots didnt have Gronkowski they arent the same team.

Hoss said:

But lol at the HOF and best ever talk. He's not even the best TE playing right now, much less of all time.

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Hoss. You're a moron. Kelce comes close, but Gronk is Gronk.

Hoss said:

I saw gronk hosting a comedy show a couple weeks ago. His set was good enough to make me think he'd do well as an actor.

But lol at the HOF and best ever talk. He's not even the best TE playing right now, much less of all time. Longevity and availability matters. If it doesn't then we can pretend Bo jackson and Tony Boselli were the best ever too.

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I can't Picard this post hard enough. I don't even like the Pats, but come on, man.

Hoss said:

I saw gronk hosting a comedy show a couple weeks ago. His set was good enough to make me think he'd do well as an actor.

But lol at the HOF and best ever talk. He's not even the best TE playing right now, much less of all time. Longevity and availability matters. If it doesn't then we can pretend Bo jackson and Tony Boselli were the best ever too.

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Dude...come on. He's the best. I was a huge Ben Coates fan. He eats Ben Coats lunch. He will get in 1st ballot for sure.

Jozu said:

edit: Gronk is the best TE ever and there really is no debate.

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I dunno. Gonzalez was the fucking man for years. And you have to give mad props to Antonio Gates. Dude is still playing and has never missed a considerable amount of time. Isn't he the all-time TD leader for TEs?

I wouldn't be sad to see Gates get a 1st ballot either.

I mean obviously you're looking at a 5-6 year span or whatever Gronk is amazing, and they've voted some dudes in for peaks like that. Terrell Davis comes to mind. That being said longevity does matter.