Alien: Covenant (2017)

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This movie is fucked. So is prometheus. I recant everything
 
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lol, at least we're all on the same page.

Still haven't forced myself to watch this, I'm going to have to bite the bullet at some point.
 

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Just watched this.

My thoughts...

So, yeah, there is NO fucking reason why they would not be wearing helmets to protect themselves from the atmosphere. I dont give a fuck if its breathable, we had containment space worthy suits for EVAs and other exploration in 19 fucking 70 but in 2100 something having a lightweight, reliable, comfortable surface exploration helmet is a bridge too far? I get the writers needed a vehicle to infect the explorers, but cmon. They could of created some event where one of them HAD to take his helmet off after an accident etc and then they get infected, something.
The next movie is supposedly going to deal with the Engineers so a lot of (shitty?) questions will hopefully be answered.

Lastly....David. I dont even know where to start here. So when he firsts cuts his hair that was a HUGE red herring for his taking Walters place. It was hanging around in the back of my head the whole time and the reveal at the end was still a surprise but it was softened a bit by that very obvious bit of narrative via the haircut. Then you have to ask yourself, why kill Elizabeth? I get it, he needed a human host.....but after she put him "back together" like he was fucking humpty dumpty (which must have took quite a bit of effort and time btw) he just decides to sacrifice her? Did he just do it after being bored?

So this basically comes down to shitty programming. The guys who wrote Davids code did a bad job. For him to be such a reliable AI mission specialist or whatever the fuck you want to call him to devolving into a super cyborg devil psychopath makes little sense other than bad code bro. He was a creator, and taker of life. Brilliant. BUT WHY? He decimated the entire species of engineers....for...what? Revenge? Fun? We wont know until Scotts next movie, sadly.
 
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720p and 1080p web-dl versions have hit all your favorite sites
 
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Figured out why this movie didn't feel right to me when i first watched it in the theater the ending felt rushed, after downloading it now I know why.
The actual traditional xenomorph shows up as an adult in 1:34, last one dies at 1:50. Meaning in this Alien movie you have the xenomorph in it for a grand total of 16 fucking minutes. You can't develop the proper tension or sense of menace of the creature in that time frame. You don't even have to show it on screen, as the original film barely did, yet you felt that it was always just around the corner. The first three films really do give you that sense, it's an omnipresent threat. In this one they know exactly where it is at all times and trap it easily.
 

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Finally watched this, it was on par with the first one. Same completely nonsensical decision making and common sense (although I really appreciated the double blood slip by two diff people at the exact same spot directly leading to their deaths lulz). I still sort of liked it in a doofy way.

Just watched this.

My thoughts...

So, yeah, there is NO fucking reason why they would not be wearing helmets to protect themselves from the atmosphere. I dont give a fuck if its breathable, we had containment space worthy suits for EVAs and other exploration in 19 fucking 70 but in 2100 something having a lightweight, reliable, comfortable surface exploration helmet is a bridge too far? I get the writers needed a vehicle to infect the explorers, but cmon. They could of created some event where one of them HAD to take his helmet off after an accident etc and then they get infected, something.
The next movie is supposedly going to deal with the Engineers so a lot of (shitty?) questions will hopefully be answered.

Lastly....David. I dont even know where to start here. So when he firsts cuts his hair that was a HUGE red herring for his taking Walters place. It was hanging around in the back of my head the whole time and the reveal at the end was still a surprise but it was softened a bit by that very obvious bit of narrative via the haircut. Then you have to ask yourself, why kill Elizabeth? I get it, he needed a human host.....but after she put him "back together" like he was fucking humpty dumpty (which must have took quite a bit of effort and time btw) he just decides to sacrifice her? Did he just do it after being bored?

So this basically comes down to shitty programming. The guys who wrote Davids code did a bad job. For him to be such a reliable AI mission specialist or whatever the fuck you want to call him to devolving into a super cyborg devil psychopath makes little sense other than bad code bro. He was a creator, and taker of life. Brilliant. BUT WHY? He decimated the entire species of engineers....for...what? Revenge? Fun? We wont know until Scotts next movie, sadly.

I figure they wanted david to be analogous with humans to be analogous to creators. Creators go god tier, create humans (who must be stopped). Humans go god tier, create androids (who must be stopped). Androids go god tier, create xenomorphs (who must be stopped).

I expect the next movie to have a fucking xenomorph creating a predator. Actually, that could probably save the franchise now that I think about it.
 
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Lol.

There are obviously many problems as far as plot holes that need to be filled, but the overall premise of the engineers I find very interesting. The murals of the xenomorph inside the Engineer ship leads one to come to the conclusion that David did not "create" the Alien but rather simply recreated the process that leads to the creature being born.

There are many questions about the black goo pathogen shit as well. Apparently it can effect organisms and lead to the creation of a Xenomorph but it also has the ability to kill every living thing en masse like bioweapon when dropped into an atmosphere? Why wouldnt it simply effect each living thing like what happened with Dr.Holloway?
 

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Because the black goo will do whatever the plot needs it to do. There you go. Mystery solved.
 
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Jesus Christ this was even worse than the first one. At least the first one had Charlize Theron to slightly distract me from how shitty the movie was. At least up until the point she couldn't figure out how to turn 90 degrees.

This was an abomination from beginning to end, no point in rehashing it. If I were a film student and needed to write a thesis, I could probably fill hundreds of pages just analyzing all the places this fucking movie went wrong.

This was far more entertaining than the movie:
 
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I considered trying to watch this a 2nd time after I quit it at the 44 minute mark on the previous attempt.

Thanks for the spoilers guys, really, I knew it'd be wasted time and now that's confirmed.
 

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are there copies without hardcoded Korean subtitles?

dont know, but now there are multiple versions of the 720p and 1080p movies out there, one of them is bound to be without the hardcoded subs.
 

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This was an abomination from beginning to end, no point in rehashing it. If I were a film student and needed to write a thesis, I could probably fill hundreds of pages just analyzing all the places this fucking movie went wrong.

This was far more entertaining than the movie:
This video conclusively proves that the best thing for the Aliens franchise is a complete and total abortion. Exterminate it all, with extreme prejudice.
 

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bluray rips with extras are out - 12 deleted/extended scenes, 18 minutes total. i'm sure it'll totally change the movie