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love, absolutely love the newest december update in ArcheAge, they also got sales for christmas!
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Go tell your Gamigo bosses to get the patch that's about to hit in Korea over here asap. Need those Hiram dailies changed to weekly quests, stat.
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Pasteton
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Well, apparently xl has teamed up with kakao games to start work on archeage 2, apparently to be made in unreal 5.
the two biggest Korean developers of grindy cash grabbity goodness, working together. The pay2win for this one will be strong.
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the two biggest Korean developers of grindy cash grabbity goodness, working together. The pay2win for this one will be strong.
ArcheAge 2 Announced, Running On Unreal Engine 5 | MMORPG.com
Announced via the Korean gaming media (via MMOCulture), Jake Song officially announced ArcheAge 2 was in the works. Also announced was the upcoming Korean MMO would utilize Epic's latest Unreal Engine 5 technology to build the game.
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It's a different culture in South Korea - they're used to this level of dumbass cash-grabbing. Outside of China and Japan, the Asian markets don't have experience with games like EverQuest and 2004 World of Warcraft, but they are one of the biggest markets when you combine Japan, China and South Korea into one. One that outrivals the neckbeardism of the west. They see it as an art medium that you pay for and their culture accepts buying power, as their whole society is based on 'someday getting rich and famous and being able to buy your way to the top'. Likewise, failure is punished in the opposite extreme. Top businessmen commit suicide when they have massive financial losses instead of accepting failure and finding a different way to resolve it.
South Korean game devs will outright refuse to work with anyone that isn't Korean (or Asian) because of these fundamental differences in opinion like you've posted above. You might be thinking, 'well that's racist of them', but they don't care. It fits South Korean cultural norms
This is why companies like Hangame/NHN USA (also known as ijji), Aeria Games, K2 Network (pre-Reloaded acquisition), Webzen Global, Netmarble, Smilegate West and other companies have all terrible Glassdoor reviews - they treat the highschool/college age employees from Western / Middle Eastern countries like absolute garbage. They know low-income countries in the west will eat up their regurgitated pay-to-win bullshit. And for those that don't catch on that are in somewhat educated countries like the US, Germany, France, Russia, UK and other so-called 'first world countries' - they hire people from those countries to peddle the games for them.
This isn't 2000 anymore and the MMORPG genre is overflowing with garbage cash grabs. The approach of Korean devs is to make the garbage 'pretty' instead of making the gameplay good or fun, because it monetizes better and can support the inane level of personnel required to make the games look nice.
This mentality, of course, does not translate to the western market well, at all. We see high fidelity engines like CryEngine get used to make ArcheAge and it looks visually appealing - like a painting - and then you get into the game, has hooks designed to appeal to Western markets like 'free for all PvP' or 'sandbox MMO'. These games propped up by US/UK community managers that don't give a fuck about who gets screwed over as they peddle this stuff and get paid, of course. These games are absolute pay to win garbage at endgame each time, and designed to hook and get you to spend to get there.
The worst is that they take good, amazing people like Scott Hartsman for a fool. Rift went F2P, likely due to no fault of Hartsman - it probably made sense from a financial standpoint based on ArcheAge's success. Then he signed up to publish other garbage like Devilian which was a massive failure in the east, let alone here in the west.
We need less games focused on global appeal, and more 'niche' games like EverQuest. They were initially targeted to, in EQ's case, D&D and roleplaying nerds. But not fans of IPs or mass appeal, mass profit games like modern-day FFXIV, Star Trek Online etc. These games feel like they're trying to appease people based on their knowledge of a universe or world; instead of using the universe to create good gameplay, they use it to have broad appeal to people who like that property. Fans of good game design should always have a game like EQ on release to play, The creation of the game and upkeep of the game should not cost the company millions of dollars of incoming revenue from running the game, or venture capitalists investing in the game. In that respect, I love the subscription model for that purpose alone. A game succeeds on its own merits, or rather, I believe it should - but only if people actually want to play it... and are not duped into spending money on something they might not even enjoy.
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The Koreans seem like the only country willing to dump the resources to make a major MMO title these days. All the stuff coming out of the west is basically kickstarter stuff that's been in development for 5 years and not done yet. Maybe the Amazon MMO might come out?
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You hit on another point: WoW both elevated and killed the MMO market, and now it is much harder to fund AAA mmos because the investment vs. return just isn't there. Part of FFXIV's success is no doubt people sick of WoW and wanting something on that same tier (it also helped that Yoshi P had played UO, EQ1, WoW, etc and not only understood how the MMO market developed over time, but what actually worked and what players were sick of).
But the market itself, much like the BR market, got over-saturated and also realized that the pay-per-month playerbase wasn't willing (or able) to shoulder multiple ongoing subscriptions. Kind of like how many people in the streaming market are discovering when they pull their shit from Netflix, try to fly solo, then are perplexed that no one wants to pay another sub for their own niche streaming service. You're never going to get a big budget EQ1. Maybe some kickstarter labor of love that finds a niche audience, but people thinking "EQ1 with gooderer graphics will be a huge success!" are fucking delusional. FFXIV 1.0 basically tried to be a modern EQ1 and FFXI, and failed hard because the project heads were still stuck in 1999-2001 like a quarter of this message board seems to be lol.
But the market itself, much like the BR market, got over-saturated and also realized that the pay-per-month playerbase wasn't willing (or able) to shoulder multiple ongoing subscriptions. Kind of like how many people in the streaming market are discovering when they pull their shit from Netflix, try to fly solo, then are perplexed that no one wants to pay another sub for their own niche streaming service. You're never going to get a big budget EQ1. Maybe some kickstarter labor of love that finds a niche audience, but people thinking "EQ1 with gooderer graphics will be a huge success!" are fucking delusional. FFXIV 1.0 basically tried to be a modern EQ1 and FFXI, and failed hard because the project heads were still stuck in 1999-2001 like a quarter of this message board seems to be lol.
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New fresh start server is coming on the 25th, at the same time as the gunslinger class (some say its used as an archery support) and rumor is the Akasch invasions are alot like rifts from... Rift. So that should be interesting at least.
I am not 100% whether you need to buy the expansion to access fresh start if you have bought it the first or second time around but you do need to buy it for the gunslinger.
I wanted to mention it to build a little hype here, since it hasn't been mentioned but it should at least be fun for a month or two. Ill toss em $16 to check it out and fill this void I have while waiting for either TBC classic or a new EQ TLP.
I am not 100% whether you need to buy the expansion to access fresh start if you have bought it the first or second time around but you do need to buy it for the gunslinger.
I wanted to mention it to build a little hype here, since it hasn't been mentioned but it should at least be fun for a month or two. Ill toss em $16 to check it out and fill this void I have while waiting for either TBC classic or a new EQ TLP.
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Youll never go wrong with staff mage.
Theres a lot of changes coming and whether any of the "meta" will transfer from korea is very subjective, due to general server class disparity. NA seems to love playing darkrunners because its a very solo PVP playstyle.
I found a video for this patch for balance changes and the meta in this guys opinion with access to the korean version.
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It will definitely benefit you to join a guild, and there are gonna be tons of pugs for all the main stuff you'll he doing like hiram dailies and daily events (aegis, whalesong, CR, etc). For more competitive content like abyssals youre gonna start needing a guild probably. Soloing is fun too, you can roam around and gank people farming pretty easily, the benefit being you'll get honor to buy gems with. Generally you're gonna choose either sorcery, battlerage or archery, add shadowplay, and flex a third tree depending on playstyle and the tools you want/need. If I play I'm probably going archery/shadowplay/gunslinger this time around because it's new, but be aware archery can be weaker than melee or caster sometimes.
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The fresh start server thing has never really grabbed me. So much stuff in this game comes from long grinds, I'm too materialistic to give it all up to start over on another server. Although that usually means staying on servers that are ghost towns.
