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Foggy

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While they managed to do it in a much more tactful way than Tennessee, this still reminds me of the Fulmer situation. Let's just hope they don't get too caught up in the idea that anyone and everyone will come busting the doors down to coach there and go after horridly unrealistic options while the ones that would do just fine there all get wrapped up with new extensions. If not, in five years you will be wishing for Mack Brown and 8-4 seasons.
Except Texas is the hottest babe in the bar. Tennessee is that drunk girl with love handles and fucked up teeth alone at closing time begging to be sexed and you, ten drinks in, still decide jerking it will be better.
 

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While they managed to do it in a much more tactful way than Tennessee, this still reminds me of the Fulmer situation. Let's just hope they don't get too caught up in the idea that anyone and everyone will come busting the doors down to coach there and go after horridly unrealistic options while the ones that would do just fine there all get wrapped up with new extensions. If not, in five years you will be wishing for Mack Brown and 8-4 seasons.
After seeing how Texas fans reacted to all of this, could it end up any other way? They thought Saban was going to leave Alabama for them. They really fucking believed that.
 

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While I am guilty of just fueling the fire, the problem with everything College Football from the National Championship, to the bowls, and down to the rewards is the fact that it is all being diluted by the revenue earning aspect of it all. They have 800 Heisman voters because they don't want to offend anyone so they can maximize their coverage mileage. Bowls are not about intriguing match-ups but getting two of the best traveling fan bases that you can manage from the remaining pool. The National Championship will not willingly go to a team that is not inside the elite circle, because there is way too much money riding on the thing.
 

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After seeing how Texas fans reacted to all of this, could it end up any other way? They thought Saban was going to leave Alabama for them. They really fucking believed that.
Hmm the quote just before yours definitely adds some legitimacy to what you said:

Except Texas is the hottest babe in the bar. Tennessee is that drunk girl with love handles and fucked up teeth alone at closing time begging to be sexed and you, ten drinks in, still decide jerking it will be better.
Being a Tennessee fan, I completely know and have been living your argument. Fan bases can be delusional, and I will contend that Texas is on a different level of desirable destinations for coaches then Tennessee, but not by that much. And honestly I still think if they try to get a "home run" hire, it will bite them in the ass. Just because you are Texas (Tennessee, Alabama, USC, Florida, Florida St etc) does not mean someone is just going to automatically say "Where do I sign?" if you bring an offer. Pretty much this article sums up my opinion, and I'm not hoping for anything bad or cheering against a good hire for Texas at all. I just know that my team happens to still be living in the fifth year of a very similar decision that Texas just made yesterday, and I hope it pans out better.

How Texas can screw up its search for a new football coach - Yahoo Sports
 

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Heisman should be named as "Token QB award"
more like "Token offense award", 2 RBs have won it too in the last 8 years. Its ridiculous that a defense-only player has no shot at winning the Heisman. Suh should have won it going away a few years ago.
 

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The main problem with Texas is that they just aren't the greatest program historically(but they think they are), they just have a TON of money right now. It's like they're the Los Angeles Dodgers and they think they are the Yankees. Yes, it's still a great job and having all of those financial resources are nice, but lets get real here, Texas has 3 national titles, and only 1 in the last 40 years. They're a top 10 job, *maybe* top 5, but that's arguable. They definitely aren't the best job in CFB, and they won't just be able to take anyone they want as a coach.

I make the Dodgers comparison because both teams are historically all-time top teams, but the VAST majority of their chapionships are only remembered by people over the age of 50. There's only 1 championship for either in the last generation or two.
 

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Except coaches today aren't going to judge jobs on whether or not you amassed a shit ton of championships during the 70s, 80s, or 90s. It is all about the here in now. Texas is the richest program, by far, has its own network, is the flagship school in its state, is king in what might be the most talent rich state (obviously top 3), has a huge fan base that will give massive support and fill the stadiums but isn't SEC and Big 10 levels of insane (fuck it took MB having the worst 4 year stretch in the history of Texas to push his ass out), it is in one of the best cities in the country, and you are treated like a king but you aren't such a big deal in Austin that you cannot live somewhat of a normal life.

It checks off every major category, some of which no other program is able to check off. The cons are time investment for LHN (overplayed, since it is negotiable and coaches already do tv and radio shows so it really isn't that much added) and the fan base is incredibly arrogant (par for the course with major programs).

That article is stupid, the James Franklins of the world could sign an extension today and if Texas comes calling tomorrow they would bail out of there immediately.

Also, I could go into a long explanation of why Texas fell post-DKR but I will sum it up quickly with: the fan base and big money donors fractured post DKR over who should be his successor, it was messy and it was a massive power struggle that ultimately threw the program into indefinite disarray. Mack Brown was the coach that finally healed that and awoke the sleeping giant. That won't occur this time because, 1. nobody cares what Mack thinks, 2. there isn't a MB coaching tree with multiple candidates that the fans will fight over, which is what occurred when DKR retired, 3. there will be a search committee, they will land a big name, and that will be that. The next coach might fail, which is fine, I will live through a Zook so we find our Meyer.

edit: Also, I'm fucking around about Tennessee. It is an upper echelon program, they just made two incredibly stupid hires in a row. Their problem is they don't have the advantages of a Florida, USC, or Texas that can indefinitely survive bad coaching hires due to the easy access to insane amounts of talent. Hell, as much as people say the Texas program was bad when MB took over, they had the future hiesman winner and a stud offensive line and were only a year removed from winning the first ever Big 12 title (haha go fuck yourself Nebraska, Texas single-handedly killed that program). That is right, the coach we fired in order to hire MB coached in the Big 12 for only two years compared to MB's 16 and has only 1 less Big 12 championship. It is amazing how one national title won by VY lets a career underachiever earn HoF status.
 

Foggy

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Btw my top 3 you make say no first list:

1. Jim Harbaugh
2. Meyer
3. John Harbaugh.

Meyer would be great because he is a good coach, everybody hates him so this will complete the Texas are the villains of cfb thing, and, most importantly, the dumar tears.
 

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Btw my top 3 you make say no first list:

1. Jim Harbaugh
2. Meyer
3. John Harbaugh.

Meyer would be great because he is a good coach, everybody hates him so this will complete the Texas are the villains of cfb thing, and, most importantly, the dumar tears.
Those are all realistic options. I think Texas should hire all 3.
 

Foggy

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The Tri-Force of coaching staffs?

Rumor that Meyer's camp actually called Texas. There is no way he leaves though. It is just a give me a raise rumor.
 

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I think there are a lot of good options for Texas. It's going to be pretty fucking hard for them to fuck this up,but the magic of coaching searches is that schools find a way.
 

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There is ZERO chance of Texas getting a current NFL coach that isn't on the verge of being fired(neither Harbaugh is an option). Coaches don't go back to college unless they are failing in the NFL. Saban was 6-10 the season before he left the Dolphins.

I'm betting you would be hard pressed to find a coach who willingly left an NFL job where he had just finished with a .500 or better record. I bet it's never happened.(Falcons were 3-9 when Petrino left mid-season)
 

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can I buy another foggy post? or is that shit free yet. Never know with texans.
 

Foggy

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can I buy another foggy post? or is that shit free yet. Never know with texans.
Avatar bet for bowl game?

Joe, I agree. You still make them say no. If there is a college program that could do it, it is Texas with the massive amount of money it has.
 

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Yep, Texas should be throwing money at unrealistic candidates. When they say no then I think they'd do well to take a look at FCS, which has a crazy amount of talent long overdue for the big leagues right now. There's probably 3 or 4 guys down there I'd take in a heartbeat over someone like Franklin.

I have no idea why those guys don't get looks more often. Most the elite FCS guys make the jump seamlessly and start kicking the shit out of FBS more or less immediately. Either way of you "settle" for someone like Franklin then you're in a pretty fucking great spot.
 

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An elite FCS coach could work. The guys that succeed at that level are doing so because they are out-coaching their opponents, not because they are outrecruiting them. A big worry about FCS coaches is that they don't have those recruiting ties that a lot of guys that have spent their entire careers at FBS have, but that almost wouldn't be an issue at Texas, big time recruits are going to come no matter what. That's a reason Tressell did so well at Ohio St right off the bat, he was a great coach and the recruits recruit themselves at Ohio St as well.
 

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That's basically my thought, but I would also add that FCS guys tend to be really fucking good at evaluating talent, which is a huge boon at Texas.
 

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Btw my top 3 you make say no first list:

1. Jim Harbaugh
2. Meyer
3. John Harbaugh.

Meyer would be great because he is a good coach, everybody hates him so this will complete the Texas are the villains of cfb thing, and, most importantly, the dumar tears.
There is more of a chance you'd get Saban and the Harbaugh bros all together as assistants than landing Meyer. It's like dividing by zero infinity times. He's already at the best program in cfb.