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jooka

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I know at Autzen you can only drink at club level or luxury boxes, not sure for other schools in the PAC 12
 
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Alcohol policies at NCAA stadiums are *almost* as laughable as when they tell us the whole thing exists for the "student athletes".

Cannot buy or possess alcohol at Virginia Tech (and I believe all ACC stadiums) but curiously I have never been patted down (nor has anyone else given the number of discarded airplane bottles) before and no one ever says a word about the biblical flood worth of beer and booze going down on campus property at the tailgate parking lots. I can only imagine how hard they party at some of the more legendary places like Baton Rouge and shit. But yeah, NCAA, no one is encouraging drinking at all.
 

Fadaar

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I always thought the restriction on alcohol sales was done on a conference by conference basis. I know the Big 12/NCAA always made the Sprint Center here in Kansas City stop their beer sales during the Big 12 basketball tournament, same with no beer sales at Arrowhead during MU/ku football games, or the Big 12 championship game.

Did something change to now put that decision back in the hands of individual schools? I just assumed West Virginia was already doing it because they were in a podunk conference before that allowed it, and the B12 just grandfathered in their allowance of it, since they were already doing it when they joined.

About damn time I say.
I know for USF home games alcohol is served, since they play at Raymond James Stadium (Buccaneers stadium). I think it may be more of a venue by venue thing.
 

Gilgamel

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I think they went about it the wrong way. Trying to make it a player safety issue is dumb. They should just give the defense the right to sub every time there's a first down so there's still a strategic aspect to it. Right now the tempo bullshit has created a dumbed down version of the game, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. And I say that as a person who loves football and has a coach who runs the same tempo FASTER FASTER bullshit as most of you idiots.
 

WhatsAmmataU_sl

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I think they went about it the wrong way. Trying to make it a player safety issue is dumb. They should just give the defense the right to sub every time there's a first down so there's still a strategic aspect to it. Right now the tempo bullshit has created a dumbed down version of the game, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. And I say that as a person who loves football and has a coach who runs the same tempo FASTER FASTER bullshit as most of you idiots.
I liked the part where he called you idiots "idiots".
 

LiquidDeath

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I think they went about it the wrong way. Trying to make it a player safety issue is dumb. They should just give the defense the right to sub every time there's a first down so there's still a strategic aspect to it. Right now the tempo bullshit has created a dumbed down version of the game, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. And I say that as a person who loves football and has a coach who runs the same tempo FASTER FASTER bullshit as most of you idiots.
There is already a mechanism in place for teams to do so.....called a time out.

It isn't like the offense is subbing like crazy and only the defense is tired and on its heels. The offense doesn't get to sub either and if they do, there is already a rule in place that forces time for the defense to sub as well.
 

Joeboo

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I'd be ok with a mandatory 10-15 second play clock runoff after each 1st down, just not every play. Football is meant to have a bit of strategy to it, it shouldn't be just mindless "can we rip off play after play so fast that the other team can't get ready"

Think of other sports. It's like a pitcher being able to throw pitches whether the batter is in the batters box or not. Also similar to offsides calls in soccer. It's there to give teams a sporting chance at playing some semblance of defense, so the game just doesn't turn into alternating cherry-picked 1 on 1 goals constantly.
 

Gilgamel

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It's homogenizing the game. Instead of sub packages and specialists on defense now it's all generalist and people just run three or four base defenses with a couple of different pressures. If you just go "OOOOH POINTS, PRETTY!" it's fine, but if you actually like the tactical aspects of the game it really limits how defenses can play.
 

Rengak

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Maybe defenses should focus on a flexible base package with more man coverage instead of specialized sub groups designed to stop one play.
 

OU Ariakas

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No huddle offenses make the strategic decision to go with their 11 most versatile players instead of the 11 best players so that they can run formations without having to substitute and hopefully expose a defensive weakness in those formations. If it is so homogenized the please tell me why Oklahoma's no huddle looks nothing like Oregon's no huddle which looks nothing like Auburn's no huddle. HUNH is the hot offensive style right now; in a few years it will be figured out and you will have players and packages on defense to stop it. This is only a big deal because some asshole coaches don't want do their goddamn jobs and find a way to stop it that might require a few years and different recruits than they are used to getting.
 

Gilgamel

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You just made my point for me. The power of the HUNH isn't schematic, it's taking advantage of a loophole that helps every single form of offense and hurts every single form of defense. So my point about homogenization was only regarding defense(which is not a debatable point), and the NFL stuff where you kick a big end inside on pass downs or sub in a third safety or corner is much rarer in college because you have to be able to handle five or six plays in a row and if you put a fifth lineman in the game to stop a third down and they spread you out after they pick it up you are done. Unless you fall down and pretend you have a cramp.
 

Rengak

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You just made my point for me. The power of the HUNH isn't schematic, it's taking advantage of a loophole that helps every single form of offense and hurts every single form of defense. So my point about homogenization was only regarding defense(which is not a debatable point), and the NFL stuff where you kick a big end inside on pass downs or sub in a third safety or corner is much rarer in college because you have to be able to handle five or six plays in a row and if you put a fifth lineman in the game to stop a third down and they spread you out after they pick it up you are done. Unless you fall down and pretend you have a cramp.
Do you hate watching Peyton Manning play football?
 

LiquidDeath

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You just made my point for me. The power of the HUNH isn't schematic, it's taking advantage of a loophole that helps every single form of offense and hurts every single form of defense. So my point about homogenization was only regarding defense(which is not a debatable point), and the NFL stuff where you kick a big end inside on pass downs or sub in a third safety or corner is much rarer in college because you have to be able to handle five or six plays in a row and if you put a fifth lineman in the game to stop a third down and they spread you out after they pick it up you are done. Unless you fall down and pretend you have a cramp.
Defenses have to get more versatile.

Or consider the reverse, why should offenses be less versatile because defensive players/schemes can't keep up under the current rules? Rules, by the way, that haven't been change in quite a while.
 

Dumar_sl

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It's homogenizing the game. Instead of sub packages and specialists on defense now it's all generalist and people just run three or four base defenses with a couple of different pressures. If you just go "OOOOH POINTS, PRETTY!" it's fine, but if you actually like the tactical aspects of the game it really limits how defenses can play.
Turning college football into WoW.