Cheated out of my youth

pharmakos

bµɐʁwɐʞoƨ
<Bronze Donator>
10,693
6,678
29d 5h 20m
You would have to be crazy to want to be a teacher with how little they get paid
 

Brad2770

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
2,790
7,250
31d 8h 39m
This school is about 3 miles from my ex wife’s/son’s house. He has friends in boy scouts going there next year.

Found another story on this: supposedly happened during 2016-17 year, so he was 15/16 years old at the time.

Shannon Hathaway: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Nevermind, article says he was 17. WTF. 17 in 9th grade.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: chthonic-anemos

1987

Molten Core Raider
1,356
521
11d 20h 56m
This school is about 3 miles from my ex wife’s/son’s house. He has friends in boy scouts going there next year.

Found another story on this: supposedly happened during 2016-17 year, so he was 15/16 years old at the time.

Shannon Hathaway: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Nevermind, article says he was 17. WTF. 17 in 9th grade.
Odds the kid stayed back on recommendation from this woman so that he stayed in her middle school?
 
  • Like
Reactions: chthonic-anemos

Brad2770

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
2,790
7,250
31d 8h 39m
Odds the kid stayed back on recommendation from this woman so that he stayed in her middle school?
I sent that article to my ex wife. Come to find out, she was my son’s counselor for next year. Or would have been.

21380CF9-4125-4064-ADC4-A361DD0A130D.jpeg


As for holding him back, can counselors do that?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: chthonic-anemos

j00t

Vyemm Raider
3,594
2,259
24d 17h 31m
counselors have no real impact on a student's education, other than helping them deal with issues that might get in the way of their studies. so no, a counselor can not make any kind of professional recommendations for holding a student back. the only time, i think, a counselor would have any impact is if there were some SEVERE learning disabilities and they were specifically approached by the education team.
 
  • Like
Reactions: chthonic-anemos

sleevedraw

Arcade Gannon
485
868
You would have to be crazy to want to be a teacher with how little they get paid
High school teachers in my district retire on a pension that's two-thirds of their base salary, and they are making over 90k by the time they retire. They also work 9 months out of the year. Granted, this is the People's Republic of Chicago, which is among the high end as far as state teacher salaries go, but I still feel (most) don't deserve to get paid that much.

I would be more sympathetic about their salaries if they were required to have a MA/MS in the subject they taught (required in some really high-ranking countries like Finland), but most education majors rank slightly above journalism and gender studies majors in terms of academic competence, IMO.
 

ZyyzYzzy

Honk Honk 👌
<Moderation Tools>
19,071
27,731
81d 5h 8m
High school teachers in my district retire on a pension that's two-thirds of their base salary, and they are making over 90k by the time they retire. They also work 9 months out of the year. Granted, this is the People's Republic of Chicago, which is among the high end as far as state teacher salaries go, but I still feel (most) don't deserve to get paid that much.

I would be more sympathetic about their salaries if they were required to have a MA/MS in the subject they taught (required in some really high-ranking countries like Finland), but most education majors rank slightly above journalism and gender studies majors in terms of academic competence, IMO.
I remember studying for my molecular neuroanatomy final as my friend who was in the School of Education at UCONN was cutting out paper trees for one of his. Rustles me to this day.
 

fred sanford

Golden Knight of the Realm
336
338
12d 4h 1m
I doubt this kid was held back that much. If you think about it middle school ends at 8 grade which means most kids at that grade are 13 or 14. So this kid was held back 3-4 times
 
  • Like
Reactions: chthonic-anemos

Khane

Got something right about marriage
14,030
4,846
49d 21h 12m
High school teachers in my district retire on a pension that's two-thirds of their base salary, and they are making over 90k by the time they retire. They also work 9 months out of the year. Granted, this is the People's Republic of Chicago, which is among the high end as far as state teacher salaries go, but I still feel (most) don't deserve to get paid that much.

I would be more sympathetic about their salaries if they were required to have a MA/MS in the subject they taught (required in some really high-ranking countries like Finland), but most education majors rank slightly above journalism and gender studies majors in terms of academic competence, IMO.
Differs by state, some states require master's degrees. But as you pointed out colleges will sell an education degree to anyone and tons of kids who probably shouldn't even be considering college go and get a degree in education just because they have no idea what the fuck else to study. Then you have this whole problem of people with degrees to become teachers not being able to get jobs because there is so much competition, which I'd assume also drives salaries down (or at least into stagnation).

I've dated two women who were teachers. They made laughable, terrible salaries and one of them taught in a private school that had no benefits like a pension plan. I think she got paid $38k/year in CT which is barely livable.
 

j00t

Vyemm Raider
3,594
2,259
24d 17h 31m
my cousin was a teacher at a private school. terrible salary AND she had to buy her own books for the students. not to mention she'd get there at like 6am and be there till like 10pm. she LOVED her job, though so it took forever to convince her to move on.
 

Aaron

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
3,696
3,792
14d 15h 38m
Holy Jesus! Kinda makes sense now. When your employer is fucking you over that badly, no wonder so many of them seem to want an additional dicking if they can get it!
 

ToeMissile

Lord Nagafen Raider
1,032
269
6d 1h 35m
My wife taught middle and high school for 8 years before going back to school for her MA + Admin credential, has been an assistant principal for 4 years now. She spent a bunch of money out of pocket every year for supplies for her kids, it's like that in a lot of areas unfortunately.

In my anecdotal experience, most people become teachers because love teaching and want to help the kids. Like any job, you can get burned out for a number of reasons.
 

Aaron

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
3,696
3,792
14d 15h 38m
For these ladies, they can both get burned out through too much teaching, or from getting the clap from one of their students!