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Chris said:

There's an entire genre of new roguelikes with persistent bonuses gained between characters, with Hades probably being the best.

This IS the right design space to explore, they just did nothing with it. Having different codex powers available to earn each season would help, but afaik they don't carry over

PoE gets away with it by having the seasonal content give new items and big bonuses... the hearts do seem promising.

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Rogue-like advancement is one of the few ways I can see seasons actually mattering to people. You do Season 1 and your account gets a permanent +2% life steal and Necromancer blood skills have the option of a corrupted graphics etc. Knowing Blizzard, we'd eventually end up with 3000% life steal, 3000% damage, 8 billion thorns, etc. etc. As they try to make every single season THE MUST DO SEASON - but under non-retard conditions, it would do just fine as long as you can go back and do the old seasons with little grief.

Im doing season 1 cause I paid for it. But nothing about what Ive seen makes me actively want to play it longer than I have to. Really annoyed that "this" is what they came up with for the season.

Yep , I don't know why they can't find a middle ground between "we'll nerf anything that's fun" to "Infinite damage go wild". Neither approach is particularly fun. The later bieng amusing for a couple weeks at a time. I like the idea of some kind of account progression for completing seasons.

Mist said:

I don't even understand why those are good.

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you chill stuff near you and do 10% more dmg to chilled people as a multiplier.

muggzwon said:

you chill stuff near you and do 10% more dmg to chilled people as a multiplier.

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And you can take one of the passives that increases damage further against chilled enemies.

Mist said:

I don't even understand why those are good.

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Chill counts as a CC effect, which coupled with a few of the CC aspects like 4 energy everytime something is CC’d and the increased damage stuff makes it scale pretty well. The energy aspect alone solves energy issues

Ritley said:

Chill counts as a CC effect, which coupled with a few of the CC aspects like 4 energy everytime something is CC’d and the increased damage stuff makes it scale pretty well. The energy aspect alone solves energy issues

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Level 90 and still haven't gotten one higher than 1 energy per CC. Fucking ridiculous.

Mist said:

It's because it's only on rings.

Gamble Obols exclusively for rings.

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Have been doing this since level 60. Just terrible luck.

I am desensitized to it basically. D3 had only regular balance stuff carry over into regular servers once season was over(aka set changes, ability changes etc). New stuff or mechanics did not carry over. All the fun stuff like etheral weapons, mass goblins,default RoRG on everyone,cube changes and such was just abandoned after a season was done. Seemed like such a huge waste, especially as I think the people playing on regular servers was very minimal. It was seasons or nothing. And since you just had a 1-2 week gap between end of one and start of another, most didn't bother.

You basically played for a week or 2, did the season journey, got your stash tab and other rewards(pet, wings and such), Leveled some gems to 25(for the bonus), did a few GRs and quit.

Yeah their version of Seasons isnt really doing it for me, most likely will play the first season (Since my dumbass paid for it with the early access pre-order) and then not touch it again for months.

Game is definitely fun especially grouped with friends, but it feels super incomplete. One season isn't gonna change that.

Been said, but shipping with no match-making was huge mistake. Solo slog after 70 is boring as hell. Would be cool to at least queue with others for better XP.