Everquest - Phinigel server

rad

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Eh, you can come over to Ragefire with Darkwind. We are a 24/7 raid force. Have VP rotation with 1 guild that is A, B, FFA, A, B, FFA, repeat... Velious will be 100% races and contesting around the clock. Darkwind is the only guild fielding a 24/7 force. The next couple guilds are US Prime time only and no compete outside of that.
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I wouldnt touch ragefire, someone posted the numbers of lockjaw vs ragefire vs phinny and lockjaw/ragefire were low numbers. Phinny will pass that server soon in expansion and those servers will only continue to die. Darkwind should move over here, or rosengard orr some EU guild.
 

Jysin

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I wouldnt touch ragefire, someone posted the numbers of lockjaw vs ragefire vs phinny and lockjaw/ragefire were low numbers. Phinny will pass that server soon in expansion and those servers will only continue to die. Darkwind should move over here, or rosengard orr some EU guild.
RG died when we broke the rotation we had with them. They wanted the easier route of instanced raids and moved to Phinny.

I actually just quit game anyway, I have far too much RL stuff going on.

But if he can't find a guild to raid with at all on Phinny, it is certainly a viable option.
 

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Were actually coming up with a plan to help out more than 2 guilds now bro. Were probably going to work out swapping in one guild per kill for the teeth.

Vaclav please dont make me laugh which is what we did when your leader threatened to join up with OGC. We'd curbstomp you just like we did them, you aren't relevant in anyway. All your guild is a nuisance of people auto clicking ground spawns, training our idle people in FV, and threats that are a laugh more than anything from Krimz.
Lolol still hilarious that 17 years later eq keeps bringing out the ethugs.
 

Crone

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RG died when we broke the rotation we had with them. They wanted the easier route of instanced raids and moved to Phinny.

I actually just quit game anyway, I have far too much RL stuff going on.

But if he can't find a guild to raid with at all on Phinny, it is certainly a viable option.
A lot of tempting things about going back there, but I'll tough it out with phinigel. Thanks though!
 

skai

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Anyone have a link/chart of what the monk fists dps is as levels scale? Thanks
Level(skill) - Level(skill): Dmg/Dly: Epic Dmg/Dly
1(0) --------- 2(14)___:__ 3/38 __:___ 3/26*
2(15) -------- 3(29)___:__ 4/38 __:___ 4/26*
3(30) -------- 5(44)___:__ 5/38 __:___ 5/26*
5(45) -------- 6(59)___:__ 6/38 __:___ 6/26*
6(60) -------- 8(74)___:__ 7/38 __:___ 7/26*
8(75) -------- 9(89)___:__ 8/38 __:___ 8/26*
9(90) -------- 11(104)_:__ 9/38 __:___ 9/26*
11(105) ----- 14(119)_:__ 10/38 __:__ 10/26*
14(120) ----- 17(134)_:__ 11/38 __:__ 11/26*
17(135) ----- 20(149)_:__ 12/38 __:__ 12/26*
20(150) ----- 23(164)_:__ 13/38 __:__ 13/26*
23(165) ----- 26(179)_:__ 14/38 __:__ 14/26*
27(180) ----- 30(194)_:__ 15/38 __:__ 15/26*
30(195) ----- 34(209)_:__ 16/38 __:__ 16/26*
34(210) ----- 38(224)_:__ 17/38 __:__ 17/26*
38(225) ----- 41(239)_:__ 18/38 __:__ 18/26*
42(240) ----- 45(254)_:__ 19/38 __:__ 19/26*
45(255) ----- 50(269)_:__ 20/38 __:__ 20/26*
50(270) ----- 55(284)_:__ 21/38 __:__ 21/26
55(285) ----- 60(299)_:__ 22/38 __:__ 22/26
60(300) ----- ??(314)_:__ 23/38 __:__ 23/26

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Blitz

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Alright so I am probably better off going with some Jade Mace's/Etched Steel Baton's until roughly 40ish when fists start passing the .50 ration mark? Thanks, any other tips for monks welcomed.
 

Jysin

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Best droppable weapons in Kunark for Monk are Stave of Shielding and Adamantite Club.

Stave of Shielding - Project 1999 Wiki= 0.607 ratio

Adamantite Club - Project 1999 Wiki= 0.600 ratio


At level 60, fists become 0.605 ratio. Once epic, there is nothing remotely comparable (0.884 ratio)

Honorable mention is a T-Staff, but it is so expensive and rare that one usually gets their epic before having enough cash / luck for the drop. Epic makes it useless. Epic is also better than the VP Bo Staff. Hell, the ratio on Velious Primal Fists are still below epic fists. You are stuck with epic fists until Luclin most likely.
 

Blitz

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So is the haste from the epic only applicable to H2H? I'm definitely missing something with how haste is calculated.
 

Blitz

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So Stave of Shielding: 17/28
Fists @ 60: 23/38

40% Haste buff from epic
Stave - 28 DLY / 1.40 (haste buff) = 20 DLY = 17/20 = .85 ratio

Obviously I am missing something, just not exactly sure what that something is that makes the fist just so much dramatically higher than applying that same haste buff from Celestial Fists to H2H.
 

Jysin

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That epic fist damage ratio is not counting the haste. The Celestial Fist item, once worn will hard change your bare fists to 23/26. The clicky spell haste on top of that is just a bonus. Just like the clicky haste will also haste any weapons you hold. Ignore the epic click haste. It is effectively just a spell haste cast on you and any shaman or chanter haste will be higher haste % and take priority. The ATK bonus from the clicky still works, so it is worth using.

Epic fists = a raw change to the dmg / del.
 

Blitz

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Epic fists = a raw change to the dmg / del.
Ah ok perfect. Thought I was losing my mind.

And the clicky haste does not stack with additional hastes from items? I wanna say I vaguely remember people talking about CoF & epic stacking back in the day, that was obviously a very long time ago or maybe even p99, or could just be remembering incorrectly. Can't recall. I am so behind on current day formulas etc.
 

Jysin

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By the way, you can copy your char over to Test server and parse on the training dummies over there to verify all of this. I am too lazy to copy and paste the parse work we did over here. Just ask any Monk who's been playing TLP and they will confirm.
 

Jysin

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Ah ok perfect. Thought I was losing my mind.

And the clicky haste does not stack with additional hastes from items? I wanna say I vaguely remember people talking about CoF & epic stacking back in the day, that was obviously a very long time ago or maybe even p99, or could just be remembering incorrectly. Can't recall. I am so behind on current day formulas etc.
The epic clicky haste is a 18 second duration spell and works like any other spell haste. You can use worn haste + spell haste, which DO stack. Spell haste + spell haste do not (higher takes priority), same as worn haste + worn haste do not stack (higher also takes priority).

As a Monk you are going to want to aim for Sky belt or Grey Suede Boots (VP) for 41% haste.

100 base + 41 worn + 58 VoG spell = 199

VoG haste will also give +20ATK, +25DEX, +40AGI.

Speed of the Shissar is 66% spell haste, but it is generally for tanks as it also buffs +12AC and +40AGI.

It isn't worth losing the ATK from VoG for the extra 1% haste from SoS.
 

Blitz

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The epic clicky haste works like any other spell. You can use worn haste + spell haste, which DO stack. Spell haste + spell haste do not (higher takes priority), same as worn haste + worn haste do not stack (higher also takes priority).
Gotcha. Yeah everything you said regarding the epic h2h ratios was what other people were echoing, just didn't know the epic had a hard change in it to DMG/DLY. Appreciate it again, looking forward to leveling the monk once the mage is done.



edit: Actually have one additional question: Is it worth it to really race change to iksar for that AC/Regen bonus, but at the loss of the DLY advantage? In your opinion?
 

Zaide

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Big Jysin dropping knowledge in here. Good stuff dude.

As a Monk in Kunark I always keep this spreadsheet of all the quest drops I need from each zone and tend to knock them all out at once. Makes the Shackles much easier.

This was the first time I got another Robe of the Whistling Fist after my epic.
 

Jysin

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There's a number of reasons I made my monk Iksar. As you said, the AC bonus is pretty hefty and I was using him as a tank in my 6 box crew. You can also start the Shackle quest immediately without having to dick around with faction work on a Human. Do not rule out the Regen bonus as well. With Fungi Tunic, Fungi Staff, and level 60 you can regen pretty quick.

Regen Table:

Both Iksar and Trolls have higher HP regeneration rates (per tick):
Level 01-19: 4 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 20-49: 6 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 50: 8 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 51-55: 12 sitting, 8 feigned, 6 standing
Level 56-59: 16 sitting, 12 feigned, 10 standing
Level 60: 18 sitting, 14 feigned, 12 standing

Comparatively, these are the HP regeneration rates (per tick) for all other races:
Level 01-19: 2 sitting, 1 feigned, 1 standing
Level 20-49: 3 sitting, 1 feigned, 1 standing
Level 50: 4 sitting, 1 feigned, 1 standing
Level 51-55: 5 sitting, 3 feigned, 2 standing
Level 56-59: 6 sitting, 4 feigned, 3 standing
Level 60: 7 sitting, 5 feigned, 4 standing

Also to note: it is pretty handy as an Origin point during Kunark for mobilization if you are far away from porters. Cabilis is relatively central.