Grim Dawn

Mountain Biker said:

Are shrine locations random or set? I'm just curious what happens if you miss one.

And how does the scaling work in this game? It seems like dungeons scale with you but the outside world doesn't?

I was just reading about the new expansion and having a paladin type class will be sweet. They are always my favorite.

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They're set, you can just go back and follow a map. There's also more shrines total than the cap iirc(not too many but like 10 or 15more or so) so you can skip some.

Stuff scales but there's lower/upper caps on the scaling, so you can't rush to the last area and have lvl 10monsters, but you also can't grind to 99 in normal mode. It also doesn't scale real time, it sets the level of an area when you first enter it and until you exit the game and reload everything it'll stay that, so say you go into a cave, gain a couple of levels, come out, the area outside is still the level it was when you first entered it, which might be 3-4levels lower than you depending on how much you're killing.

If you feel you're too overleveled it can help relogging to reset stuff if you're in a large area, but if it stays lower lvl it's just cause you're too far ahead. If you clear the full maps(and you kinda want to at first to discover all the sidequests and secrets etc) you'll be overleveled the entire time really, until you reach the 2nd difficulty or so when it starts taking longer to level and it scales fairly high. Starting the 3rd difficulty you can never be overleveled because it scales to 99 everywhere iirc. Maybe the first act scales only to 95 or something but still.

zombiewizardhawk said:

Is multiplayer a thing in this game these days (people playing it, not flooded with hacked items like TQ multiplayer was)? I might pick up the DLC and fire it up again, was a long long time ago when I played it.

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I doubt many people play it, and it doesn't have any sort of matchmaking or whatever have to connect with other people old school. Hacked items it'll depend on who you play with basically, but there's nothing preventing them.

Void said:

I haven't done it, but from what I understand, leveling via The Crucible is pretty effective if you don't care to run the main campaign over and over. Of course, then you don't have anything open, but I'm assuming this is mainly for people that just want to experiment with different builds. Or supplement xp at least, allowing you to just crush the main questlines and not worry about side quests and shrines and such. For those just starting out, don't forget that The Crucible is a great option for getting more celestial points (or whatever they are called), making it even less necessary to find every shrine. I think you can buy like 10 of them using that method before it stops you?

Personally, I will freely admit that I just make a copy of my current character and then use one of the unspec tools. If I had not done that, I'd have run the main campaign like 20+ times at various difficulties by now, and fuuuuuuuuuck that. It does hurt a bit when trying to get used to a new way of combat, but half the time your leveling builds don't match your level 100 build anyway.

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Crucible is boring AND you have to pay for it. And you still have to go collect shrines(you can buy I think it is, 10points from crucible vendor?).

And yeah one way I tested some high lvl char last time I was playing was just to backup my char then edit everything. That's the good thing about this game having no protection for anything, as long as you don't give a fuck about online play with randoms like me, I can just mod whatever I want however I want. I had the stash mod too so I could keep everything I looted without having to bother with the shit, and it also trading enchants between chars without grinding the reps for the annoying ones, or generate the materials because fuck farming for 27 bear dicks to combine into a gigantic bear dildo and repeat the process with a bunch of different animal dicks until I can finally craft the Dick charm.