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Ehhh, I don't really see that as the same. You could make LoL matches quicker just by speeding up the start
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Grayson Carlyle
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That would be really cool, from a combat-side. You feel a lot more like you are your character in an ARPG than in the MOBAs I've played (only the old WC3 mods; Valley of Dissent, Tides of Blood, DotA, etc... not sure if LoL and DotA 2 still feel that way, having not played).
They could also go with a map pool like in an FPS or RTS: Think CTF in Unreal Tournament, just add in the RPG elements and NPCs and slow down the action a bit to make it feel a bit more like a team strategy.
I don't think it's that simple anymore. The bigger something gets, the harder it is to steer the genre towards something new. Riot has stated already that they will never fundamentally change the map. They had some analogy about all basketball courts are the same size and shape, and their game will have them too. They are also very hesitant to offer up new games that will lead to the dilution of their product.
There really is no "suddenly" with this type of thing. Meta, tactics, champs, builds can change suddenly based on pro play. But map change? That's a bit more systemic. There's a lot of money in League of Legends pro play and that type of thing doesn't change on a dime.
Its 100% based on what pros play. EM is a perfect example. Lots of people who got into dota started playing em because it was easier, quicker and more fun (newb logic). As players got better they switched to normal because it's what the pros play.
If riot offered only tournaments on a new different map, everyone would switch to it in at month, tops. That's assuming that they can silence complaints from the players.
If riot offered only tournaments on a new different map, everyone would switch to it in at month, tops. That's assuming that they can silence complaints from the players.
Well in that fantasy of an example, if Riot change the map in tournaments, everyone would want to play. They're not that stupid though.
Mr Creed
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Riot did exactly what Blizzard would've done if they had seen the opportunities in the game mode early enough. Blizzard's usual move has already been used by someone else and worked like a charm, Blizzard trying to use it a second time is probably going to work just as well as the games that tried to outdo Blizzard's WoW with a later copy. I.e. not nearly as well as expected. However it'll sell on the blizzard name as usual... it just wont go to 10x times the popularity of LoL itself like they achieved with WoW over EQ.
If anything, people should have got burnt at the stake for not taking over the original DotA in the WC3 days (or even Aeon of Strife from SC). Blizzard had this shitin their handsand ignored it.
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I stand by my post in that thread.Go read the first couple of pages in the Hearthstone thread here.
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I remember some ex-Blizzard AMA on reddit, where the person basically said that the designers never took dota seriously, because it wasn't made by professionals and was "just" a map. I'm surprised that story didn't get more traction, because it tells you that good game design can come from anywhere if you are committed to polishing it enough.
People in this thread suggesting that this game will be based on the Diablo 3 engine are fucking idiots. You realize they've been making this within StarCraft 2 for years and the lead developers are all pretty much straight from the StarCraft 2 team right?
Funny how most of the rest of them quietly disappeared when the game turned out to be fun, though. Way to have strength in your convictions, chaps!
Of course I realize that Heroes is still probably using the SC2 engine. But since the trailer, we haven't gotten any new info. So let the wish lists commence, IMO.
I understand that people hate D3, but you can't hate on the feel of combat in that engine.
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I never posted in that thread again because I had no reason to follow it. Simple as that.Funny how most of the rest of them quietly disappeared when the game turned out to be fun, though. Way to have strength in your convictions, chaps!
Pretty sure you're the idiot who has no idea how a game is made at a large company. If it is in the SC2 or D3 engine is irrelevant but your reasons for why it simply has to be SC2's engine are absurd.
Zaphid
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How far apart are the engines anyway ? Both are inhouse, share the same perspective on the world and similar amount of moving stuff on screen. I have no clue how programming works but I would be surprised if they didn't have at least something in common. SC2 is great for prototyping stuff, but the map system seems a bit clumsy for full blown release. D3 was obviously made with consoles in mind, but it still took them a year to make the console port.
And neither supports LAN
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