Job Hunting

Deathwing said:

I'm a bit worried how drastically the media narrative shifted on WFH. At least from my perspective, they completely skipped vilifying the lazy WFH employee and went straight to shaming people that don't want to commute and "socialize".

Admittedly, I don't have much directly to lose. I live 15 minutes away from my company's office. But I want to keep those 30 minutes each day. We were able to get rid of one car because of WFH. But I think most importantly, I think that implicit option that I could easily find another remote job was very reassuring.

It would suck if this whole thing was killed in its infancy.

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Doesn't really matter what media says at this point. The real talent has already seen that WFH is entirely feasible and isn't interested in coming back in to the office. Most tech companies in Denver are having insane staffing issues if they are not offering WFH positions.

Deathwing said:

Part of the narrative is that some larger tech companies are going back(or already have) to hybrid models. Boiling a frog, so to speak. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same companies back to full work from office in a year.

FWIW, I'm a proponent of WFH even from an objective point of view. The same people that were productive(or not) have been equally so WFH. The push to return to WOO feels so embarrassingly Puritan.

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Stop trying to make WOO a thing, Gretchen.

I've been seeing articles pop up on my feed about how managers are going to strong arm people to come back and work in the office, including fire people.

I don't think that will go over very well with people. Someone said it right in this thread, middle managers are afraid the higher ups will find out they don't actually need middle managers and start axing them.

It looks like the majority of the oil and gas companies in Alberta, at least the major ones, are either going back to full office or a hybrid. I know Suncor is offering 3 office, 2 home, Mon&Thurs or Tue&Fri and so staggering personnel. I am seeing parking lot signs actually offering flexible 3 day a week monthly passes so perhaps that hybrid model is more prevalent than I realize.

Of course, because Canada contains a high percentage of scared libs, there are already clamorings for new restrictions as CASES show a rise. Canadians do not seem capable of freedom anymore, it is pathetic and depressing. I know of one company that went back to the office on the 4th with no masks but I think enough weak and scared people complained so that an in-office mask mandate was reimplemented on the 11th with no clear end date. We should no longer be testing or reporting at all unless people are falling out of the doors of the hospital.

My parents and I are probably moving to the western part of the state (Lauren Boehbert's district) in the next few months, so I am already applying for remote jobs.

The office is completely optional for us. I still go in 2-3 days a week but it's a 20 minute walk for me to get there. Only time people need to come into the office is for QBRs or if we have account wide strategy sessions. But there at a decent amount of us that genuinely like coming in and are there regularly.

TomServo said:

Well your in sales. People in non technical roles love that shit. You can have the hours of wasted time and stress commuting so dinosaurs can feel useful. FUCK that.

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I'm in technical sales. While I don't program all day my job is still really technical. I just also carry quota.

Big Phoenix said:

Dear god what do these people smoke?

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Require a bachelors degree and industry experience for maybe $18/hr in 2022.

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Lol, degree required for entry level help desk tech.