Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Khane

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A slob is much worse. Clean freak is annoying but at least the place is spotless.
 
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Aren't you at the latitude where pools are pretty much required?
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Cutlery

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Think of how many bodies you could put in that thing. Pool looks huge Cutlery Cutlery

20x40. 12'6" on the deep end.

I haven't done the math on dump trucks or bodies...but it's more than I'd like, that's for sure. I also only have one neighbor, and they gave up on their pool too. Corner lot, goes down to the pond.

Once I deal with the debt from the divorce and associated legal fees I'll figure out something to do with it. Bomb shelter maybe.
 
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Grew up in Arizona, and everyone had pools. I remember many summers me and my buddy that lived a couple houses down, would just swim all day and we'd run between his pool and my pool. His was awesome because his roof got close to his pool so we'd climb up on the roof and jump in. Cannonballs from 10ft up were epic!

Fast forward to owning my first house which also had a pool and that shit turned into a pain in the dick. Never used it enough to justify it, despite it looking good. Paying someone to do it was $90 / month.
 

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20x40. 12'6" on the deep end.

I haven't done the math on dump trucks or bodies...but it's more than I'd like, that's for sure. I also only have one neighbor, and they gave up on their pool too. Corner lot, goes down to the pond.

Once I deal with the debt from the divorce and associated legal fees I'll figure out something to do with it. Bomb shelter maybe.
Legit as fuck. Make it an underground man cave. Cover the top and have a secret entrance to your house.

Then invite the whole forum over to crash that shit.
 
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Grabbit Allworth

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I've been with my wife for almost 18 years and she's honestly a wonderful wife. Gorgeous, loyal as a dog, fiscally responsible, intelligent, etc. We even have sex regularly. However, despite the fact that we have sex all the time, our sex life has been a point of serious contention between us. So much so that it's begun to cause a very real rift between us. I'm not even entirely sure it's the 'sex' per se, but rather that she's just not very expressive, intimate, flirty..

Fuck I don't know how to describe it. I'm just bored and I've brought it up every few years for a long, long time. I've never cheated on her, but lately I've been thinking about it more and more. I absolutely love my wife to death and being unfaithful is not something I want to do, but I need her to listen to the fact that she's not (and hasn't been) meeting my needs. Her lack of action thus far and it's made me quite resentful towards her since I prioritize her well-being.

To make matters worse, I've been getting A LOT of attention from women lately. I've always been in good shape, but over the last year I have refined my body to a Chad-tier physique. I'm not sucking my own dick, I am seriously in the top .1% of men my age (42) and women half my age are noticing. For example - I recently had a 20 something hottie that works at a business I frequent get in to my account so she could get my phone number and surprise-text me her nudes. She knows I'm married. In fact, she has met my wife, but she didn't care. She just wanted me to fuck her.

I guess I'm experiencing a mid-life crisis because there's really nothing 'wrong' with my marriage, but for months now I have CONSTANTLY been thinking -- "Is this really it?" I have some major cognitive dissonance going on. On an open dating market I know I would be exceptionally valuable, but I also know that window isn't going to stay open for many more years and it's close enough that I am feeling the squeeze because my own marriage is lacking an element that is, apparently, extremely important to me.

Do any of you understand this? Or do I just need a couple of you to tell me to stop being a faggot and suck it up.


P.S. We have no children, so it's not part of the equation.
 
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Khane

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Show me the most perfect woman in the world and I'll show you the man who's tired of fucking her. I know there are probably gonna be a bunch of ugly, socially inept, or otherwise not very desirable guys try to pretend they have a 10 for a wife and never have even thought about it but its basically just human nature for both men and women to fantasize. There's a reason porn is such a huge industry.

It's a pretty easy thing to deal with when there is no real, tangible temptation. But when you have a hottie texting you nudes and begging to fuck her it gets a little more difficult.

I guess you just have to decide what kind of man you are and what's more important.
 
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You only live once bro. Fuck her. You’ve got no kids, so your life is pretty pointless, mine as well do something exciting while you’re here.
 
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Crone

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I've been with my wife for almost 18 years and she's honestly a wonderful wife. Gorgeous, loyal as a dog, fiscally responsible, intelligent, etc. We even have sex regularly. However, despite the fact that we have sex all the time, our sex life has been a point of serious contention between us. So much so that it's begun to cause a very real rift between us. I'm not even entirely sure it's the 'sex' per se, but rather that she's just not very expressive, intimate, flirty..

Fuck I don't know how to describe it. I'm just bored and I've brought it up every few years for a long, long time. I've never cheated on her, but lately I've been thinking about it more and more. I absolutely love my wife to death and being unfaithful is not something I want to do, but I need her to listen to the fact that she's not (and hasn't been) meeting my needs. Her lack of action thus far and it's made me quite resentful towards her since I prioritize her well-being.

To make matters worse, I've been getting A LOT of attention from women lately. I've always been in good shape, but over the last year I have refined my body to a Chad-tier physique. I'm not sucking my own dick, I am seriously in the top .1% of men my age (42) and women half my age are noticing. For example - I recently had a 20 something hottie that works at a business I frequent get in to my account so she could get my phone number and surprise-text me her nudes. She knows I'm married. In fact, she has met my wife, but she didn't care. She just wanted me to fuck her.

I guess I'm experiencing a mid-life crisis because there's really nothing 'wrong' with my marriage, but for months now I have CONSTANTLY been thinking -- "Is this really it?" I have some major cognitive dissonance going on. On an open dating market I know I would be exceptionally valuable, but I also know that window isn't going to stay open for many more years and it's close enough that I am feeling the squeeze because my own marriage is lacking an element that is, apparently, extremely important to me.

Do any of you understand this? Or do I just need a couple of you to tell me to stop being a faggot and suck it up.


P.S. We have no children, so it's not part of the equation.
What have you done to initiate some spice in your sexual relationship? Or have you just bitched at her and expected things to change?
 
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Grabbit Allworth

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It's a pretty easy thing to deal with when there is no real, tangible temptation. But when you have a hottie texting you nudes and begging to fuck her it gets a little more difficult.

I guess you just have to decide what kind of man you are and what's more important.


It is a lot harder when you've got legitimate, high-quality opportunities. I'm a firm believer in that both men and women are, typically, only as faithful as their options. Ignoring those options is where the 'real' men and women are. I've always prided myself on my fidelity. Especially in a world where it's all too rare.

I highly value my marriage and my wife, but I'm also becoming increasingly emotionally, and sexually unsatisfied. I don't actually want to sleep with another woman, I want my wife to fill that gap, but I don't think she ever will. I suppose I wasn't super clear in that some elements of her personality have been a problem for me, for many years. I just put my head down and dealt with it. Every few years I'd get fed up, complain, and suggest solutions. I'd see a slight change for a few days (week at most) and then we were back to business as usual.

To be more clear -- I guess I'm struggling with the question of -- Do I stay with a very low-stress, stable, but emotionally/sexually unfulfilling relationship or hit the eject button before neither of us have great options. The longer I wait is worse for us if I do decide to move on.

Even talking about this makes me feel ill, because I want to terribly bad for her to just 'be better.' I'm not at all tired of her. Truthfully, I want more of her.

It's just very unlikely to happen.

Be patient with me, guys. This is really the first time I have bothered to put these thoughts in a cohesive form and absolutely not something I am comfortable talking to those in my life.
 
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You aren't really putting into words what's actually wrong. You say you have a healthy sex life but it's not fulfilling. What does that mean to yiu?

Banging a 20 year old is fine and dandy, but what's that really gonna get you besides Chlamydia
 
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Khane

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Keeping the physical aspect of a relationship fun, exciting and interesting is probably the hardest part. For anyone. Appetites change over time, there are probably things you enjoy eating or drinking now that you didn't really care for or were uninterested in when you were 20. Discovery is an ongoing thing and a lot of the time it's just a matter of trying something new.

The best way to get her to be more adventurous is to find ways to excite her. Not explain ways she can excite you. The former is initiative and shows it's a two way street. The latter is just complaining that she needs to do better. It's a tough thing to do and it only gets harder as time goes on. It can be as simple as dirty talk and engaging her differently. But it isn't really a simple problem because it's a change in mindset and requires action. Words only go so far.

The fact of the matter is, if someone is uninterested in exciting sex, it's probably because you aren't really exciting them. And that's not saying you're bad or selfish in bed, but wants and needs change over time and monotony isn't great for libido. As you already know.
 
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You know. All these years. I thought I was the only one... But fuck I wasnt

How many of you dudes have wives that don't clean or.do shit all day? Now my wife has the kids, but god damn.

Btw my house is nowhere near as bad as cutlery

My wife notices if I move knick-knacks like 2mm or some microscopic crumbs nobody ever sees and wakes up early and cleans.

She's effing crazy, but she doesn't force anyone else to do it. She just wants everything clean and does it herself.
 

Khane

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Stop bragging about your perfect wife Cad. We're trying to commiserate!