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all that side stuff is part of the Spider-Man package. it's why Sony was able to make that Tom Hardy Venom movie totally outside the MCU.
interesting that this now allows them to connect Venom and Spidey...
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all that side stuff is part of the Spider-Man package. it's why Sony was able to make that Tom Hardy Venom movie totally outside the MCU.
interesting that this now allows them to connect Venom and Spidey...
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My completely-pulled-out-of-my-ass guess would be that merchandise tied to the movies would fall under the Sony deal (for something like superheroes, not including something like merchandise in movie rights seems like it would be an absurd oversight on Sony's part), while non-movie Spidey merch would belong to Disney/Marvel.
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Any Marvel character that debuted in a Spiderman Comic is part of the rights package at Sony.
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It's going to be interesting if it sticks it out like this.. I feel we are gonna run into a James Gunn situation, but imaging the fallout if the split stands sounds horrible.
Holland is pretty much MCU to the core.. A new movie with him outside of the mcu is going to end up feeling like a reboot too hard to not notice. Like playing a game with missing textures lol. I also wonder how bad the box office number will be just from sheer salt. The ball is definitely in Disney's court, while Sony ego inflates. Buuut I feel for Sony too, because it probably comes off as that longcon takeover.
I feel like it'll hurt the mcu a little bit, but eventually it'll just be a butt end of a joke and they'll keep moving along like Edward Norton. I just wanna hear Tom Hollands opinion, but obv he can't speak out without trouble.
Holland is pretty much MCU to the core.. A new movie with him outside of the mcu is going to end up feeling like a reboot too hard to not notice. Like playing a game with missing textures lol. I also wonder how bad the box office number will be just from sheer salt. The ball is definitely in Disney's court, while Sony ego inflates. Buuut I feel for Sony too, because it probably comes off as that longcon takeover.
I feel like it'll hurt the mcu a little bit, but eventually it'll just be a butt end of a joke and they'll keep moving along like Edward Norton. I just wanna hear Tom Hollands opinion, but obv he can't speak out without trouble.
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5% first dollar gross might not be 5% is all they get, just that they start earning money on day 1 vs. when it turns a profit. However the structure likely meant that Disney's total stake was fairly low given that these movies do most of their business in the opening week(s).
It's hard to see how Sony and Marvel manage to come back to the table as each feels they have more to gain by parting ways. Ultimately, however, it's going to be a narrative issue as Marvel was throwing a lot of the lynchpin role for the MCU onto Spiderman following Endgame and that will now need to shift.
I expect Sony ultimately has more to lose out of this. After all the films I'm not really interested in Spidey's story as a standalone character.
It's hard to see how Sony and Marvel manage to come back to the table as each feels they have more to gain by parting ways. Ultimately, however, it's going to be a narrative issue as Marvel was throwing a lot of the lynchpin role for the MCU onto Spiderman following Endgame and that will now need to shift.
I expect Sony ultimately has more to lose out of this. After all the films I'm not really interested in Spidey's story as a standalone character.
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I am waiting for the Wolverine casting announcement now. Maybe at D23. Watch that suck all the air out of anything Spider-Man.
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Anyone who thinks the negotiations issue is anything other than Disney being greedy jew fucks trying to strong-arm a much smaller studio hasn't been paying attention.
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Yeah, I have to think this is a bargaining tactic. If Sony truly thinks they suddenly have the ability to make these movies to the same level of quality and entertainment, but without ANY tie-in to the Avengers, Tony Stark, Happy, hell maybe even Suit Lady...they are fucking retarded. Like someone said, it will be like playing a game with the wrong textures or something. By pretty much every metric those Andrew Garfield movies sucked ass. And I doubt they've learned enough to make them 100% by themselves and still overcome the loss of all those major story tie-ins to the MCU.
I understand both sides of the argument between Disney and Sony, but I have to think there is some compromise they can come to that isn't this complete disaster (my opinion anyway). I expect that we'll see something else come out soon about "renewed negotiations." At least, I hope that's the case.
While pretty much every studio is now "much smaller" than Disney, if you really think Sony is some helpless little Mom & Pop studio that is being driven out by Wal-Mart, then you might not really be Keg trying to be edgy with his new "I'm like Mario, but more gangsta" persona.
I understand both sides of the argument between Disney and Sony, but I have to think there is some compromise they can come to that isn't this complete disaster (my opinion anyway). I expect that we'll see something else come out soon about "renewed negotiations." At least, I hope that's the case.
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Sony confirms everything.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
This really does kneecap everything that's been done w/ Holland's version of Spider-Man. Now they get to write a followup to Far From Home without Happy Hogan, SHIELD, Fury, the Avengers, Tony/Iron Man references, etc. It's a soft reboot no matter how they go about it, wouldn't be surprised to see it unravel from there.
While very popular, he's replaceable in the MCU.
‘Spider-Man’ Studio Sony Goes Public With Marvel Movie Divorce: “We Are Disappointed” (Exclusive)
Sony Pictures is vowing to carry on the Spider-Man franchise without Marvel Studios’ involvement, placing the blame on Disney for cutting the successful inter-studio cooperation short.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
This really does kneecap everything that's been done w/ Holland's version of Spider-Man. Now they get to write a followup to Far From Home without Happy Hogan, SHIELD, Fury, the Avengers, Tony/Iron Man references, etc. It's a soft reboot no matter how they go about it, wouldn't be surprised to see it unravel from there.
While very popular, he's replaceable in the MCU.
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"Complete disaster"
If you're a grown man who is upset because a make believe super hero won't be included in a series of children's movies, chances are your life is a complete disaster.
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Wow, you're right. Let me rethink my whole life now. You have totally demolished my entire life view with your insight into my pathetic existence.
Welcome back for the short time before you get banned again Keg! Was a big fan, up until the whole turning into a little bitch over something that happened on an online forum. Talk about someone that needs to re-evaluate their life.
And on the off chance you aren't Keg, you're still someone that got banned/took a break because they took something on the forum way too seriously. And still couldn't resist coming back despite being probably universally despised here. Not to mention, Mario does this schtick way better than you do. But at least you tried!
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