MLB 2015 Season

George Springer already owns that honor.

#THIS: Springer robs slam | MLB.com

It was spring training but still. The fact the Reddick had two of these in the same game is pretty crazy.

Giants are off to their worst start since moving to SF! Fucking odd years are our kryptonite.

Muurloen_sl said:

I still don't understand the hype behindKris Bryant. He seems almost like the exact carbon copy ofMike Olt, with a bit more power, but strikes out almost the an equal rate. I don't give a damn if he can hit the ball a mile like Mark Reynolds or Adam Dunn. If he is striking out nearly 30% in the minors he is going to have little to no chance at the major league level. And I don't quote his spring training numbers, Mousuckass 3 years ago hit nearly .400 with quite a few homers, but he couldn't hit Alexei Ramirez's body weight during the regular season.

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Game 1 - 0-4 3k.... Thank you... thank you.

Muurloen_sl said:

Game 1 - 0-4 3k.... Thank you... thank you.

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Ummm... dude has a .500 OBP now. LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE WRONG!

Royals gonna start running out of players and coaches if the ejection trend keeps going up. They were all pretty bullshit though, no A's ejected and they are the ones that hit the most batters

Paulo Orlando on pace for 62 triples! 71% of his hits are triples! Haha. I know there'll be a regression to the mean but what freakish triple production from him.

Don't fuck with the A's.

So the whole Ventura thing is bullshit. He shouldn't have been ejected and he definitely shouldn't be fined. There were no warnings up to that point and it was one pitch against a player who intentionally injured a player the game before.

Herrera probably should get a suspension, but I think 5 games is excessive. 3 games would have been about right.

It's just bullshit because the royals have been hit by pitches in very similar circumstances and not a god damned thing happened. MLB seriously needs to look into the whole breaking up double plays by sliding way outside of the natural path to plant your spikes in the players knee.

This Reds-Brewers game is wild. Reds have hit HRs in five consecutive innings with two grand slams. Three grand slams total in the game. Reds are only up 16-10. This is the amount of runs the Reds will need to score when Marquis starts because he's fucking awful and the bullpen might even be worse.

So there is this:Barry Bonds' obstruction conviction thrown out by appeals court

What has always been so upsetting to me about Bonds is that he was on pace to legitimately be the greatest player to ever play the game long before using the cream and the clear. An actual 5 tool player, the ONLY member of the 500/500 club (and there isn't even anyone in the 400/400 club) and probably would have still had a shot at the all time home run mark without the PEDs. If he would have stayed off the PEDs he might not have set the single season HR mark, but would have gone down as the greatest player to ever play the game.

*edit: Also it is a joke that he and the other accused PED users aren't in the HOF. BBWAA members were more than happy to cash their paychecks no questions asked during the steroid era and now they want to act all high and mighty? Fuck them. Put in the PED users and make sure you tell the story of the era in the HOF. Rose should be in too.

opiate82_sl said:

So there is this:Barry Bonds' obstruction conviction thrown out by appeals court

What has always been so upsetting to me about Bonds is that he was on pace to legitimately be the greatest player to ever play the game long before using the cream and the clear. An actual 5 tool player, the ONLY member of the 500/500 club (and there isn't even anyone in the 400/400 club) and probably would have still had a shot at the all time home run mark without the PEDs. If he would have stayed off the PEDs he might not have set the single season HR mark, but would have gone down as the greatest player to ever play the game.

*edit: Also it is a joke that he and the other accused PED users aren't in the HOF. BBWAA members were more than happy to cash their paychecks no questions asked during the steroid era and now they want to act all high and mighty? Fuck them. Put in the PED users and make sure you tell the story of the era in the HOF. Rose should be in too.

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Yeah no shit. Bonds, Clemens and probably ARod not being in the HoF is a joke. I can understand the sort of borderline guys like McGwire but those guys? Also agree on Rose.

Things might be turning around for Rose. He's been invited to participate in all the All Star festivities. First MLB thing he's been invited to since the ban.

Alex_sl said:

Things might be turning around for Rose. He's been invited to participate in all the All Star festivities. First MLB thing he's been invited to since the ban.

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Rose was allowed on the field (Fenway) for both the pre/post game festivities at the 1999 All Star Game & All Century Team. That was the same MLB event that he had to deal with this:
Pete Rose Jim Gray interview 1999 ALL CENTURY TEAM full clip - YouTube

While I am more so lenient with the HGH issue(s) because, as an ex college player, the stuff was rampant even at that level during those mid 90s days as the NCAA did not consider HGH a violation back then. That said, I am about as certain as a person can be, without having proof, that it was rampant during those days up and down the high levels so to pinpoint a few, especially those specific guys, who were overly outstanding anyhow, seems ridiculous to me. Look how fast Smoltz (one of my favorites as a kid) bounced back from that devastating surgery which has kept out... shit... the majority of those who had it (Tommy John). Sure this could just have been due to a viable regiment but, in my eyes and with how fast the turn around was, I'm sure it was aided like nearly every single other injured player during the time.

The issue I have comes with people like Sosa who played the "I don't speak English" card while visibly speaking it in pre/post game interviews and I sure as hell have issue with the Federal Government being involved with any of it. All that said though, Bonds, ARod (as much as I hate to say it), Palmeiro, etc. Those guys were excellent anyhow and if a large portion of a league is using said substance but the same usual suspects are doing it and still playing better than the rest of the field then that says a lot. Bonds was incredible, plain and simple. The guy could be walked 3 times and still come up in his fourth at bat and launch a missile into the bay. He was also one of the better defensive players I have seen and had numerous Gold Gloves. He, quite literally, could do it all, run, field, throw, hit, hit for power, and come up in big moments. The guy was a beast in Pittsburgh too and his entire career just was outstanding. To keep him out is appalling, at best.

Rose, on the other hand, I just can't get behind. Do I believe a guy with his numbers and (in game) mentality deserves to be in the Hall? Not even a single question in my mind. However, the guy willingly set up his lineups to account for his bets and, in doing so, harmed the game with his behavior, the fans, and the credibility of MLB. I wish I could get behind him, I really do, but I draw the line at the point where his decisions directly impacted the results of multitudes of games. Technically he is in the Hall already as those records are there with his pictures and I consider his hit total something that will never be touched. Hell... as great as Jeter was and, especially, as healthy as he was for many seasons, even he wasn't even remotely close to it.

This (the bolded) is the most important aspect to me about the Rose issue:
5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability,integrity,sportsmanship,character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

We (society) have to not give passes when it comes to issues of integrity when the violation was considerable. Can we forgive? Absolutely, of course. Should we award? No, I simply cannot get behind that for Rose.

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Rose, on the other hand, I just can't get behind. Do I believe a guy with his numbers and (in game) mentality deserves to be in the Hall? Not even a single question in my mind. However, the guy willingly set up his lineups to account for his bets and, in doing so, harmed the game with his behavior, the fans, and the credibility of MLB. I wish I could get behind him, I really do, but I draw the line at the point where his decisions directly impacted the results of multitudes of games. Technically he is in the Hall already as those records are there with his pictures and I consider his hit total something that will never be touched. Hell... as great as Jeter was and, especially, as healthy as he was for many seasons, even he wasn't even remotely close to it.

This (the bolded) is the most important aspect to me about the Rose issue:
5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability,integrity,sportsmanship,character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

We (society) have to not give passes when it comes to issues of integrity when the violation was considerable. Can we forgive? Absolutely, of course. Should we award? No, I simply cannot get behind that for Rose.

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I think you have to put Rose in for nothing else because he's the hit king. There are a number of guys already in the Hall with a whole lot less integrity, sportsmanship or character. I'm not so sure he should ever be employed by MLB again though. It's bad enough that he broke the one sacred rule of any pro sport (gambling) but then he denied it for a long ass time afterwards because he was stubborn.

One note on Jeter, I think if he didn't lose almost 2 years due to his ankle issues, he probably would of kept playing to make an attempt on the record.

Vandyn_sl said:

I think you have to put Rose in for nothing else because he's the hit king. There are a number of guys already in the Hall with a whole lot less integrity, sportsmanship or character. I'm not so sure he should ever be employed by MLB again though. It's bad enough that he broke the one sacred rule of any pro sport (gambling) but then he denied it for a long ass time afterwards because he was stubborn.

One note on Jeter, I think if he didn't lose almost 2 years due to his ankle issues, he probably would of kept playing to make an attempt on the record.

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Rose - 4256 (23 seasons - 0 seasons under 20 games)
Jeter - 3465 (19 seasons - 2 seasons under 20 games)

I agree with you that Jeter would have made a viable run for that record had he stayed healthy. Looking at Rose' statistics, it is incredible, it really is. He obviously missed games here and there but the amount is extremely low. It wasn't until 20+ years in the league that he didn't put in at least 100 games. That is remarkable. However, what is the most remarkable is that the guy has the most plate appearances in Major League history (15890) and still finished with an average over 300.

If Shoeless Joe Jackson is given a plaque I think the goober reporters who, for some reason, are fully responsible to vote for this award, would be closer to thinking seriously about Rose but, as it stands, I don't think he will see the Hall in his lifetime. I think the bigger catastrophe right now is Bonds. There is no hard proof he did a single thing (but yes, I do believe he did, of course) but because he didn't give the reporters much (if any) time when a player they are screwing him in a major way. That is ridiculous to me.

Famm_sl said:

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Finally got around to watching this. Solid.