My read is that they're unwilling to provide the specific solutions yourself and others are claiming are required (instancing etc), not that they're just going to let no-lifers ruin the end game for everyone else. Perhaps it is just a factor of me being optimistic vs general pessimism on this forum. I expect designers to design and I don't think its an unsolvable problem. Guess we'll see
It absolutely is NOT an unsolvable problem. But the solutions are something NWC seems wholly UNINTERESTED in.
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- in that the majority of people playing the game will not see this content anytime soon. Or it wont even be on your radar to begin with because you just wont know about it. But on that same note - if you played the game at just a minor amount of length, then you know that the same item or a variation of that item drops in multiple locations across multiple areas. The haste cloak in Tomb, early dungeon, it drops off multiple bosses. The armor quest pieces drop off multiple bosses. This type of implementation is rampant throughout the game.
Tell me you were never in a high-end EQ raid guild without telling me you were never in a high-end EQ raid guild.Youre correct afaik, in that they just wont give the answers away. Theres stuff in the game that Ive heard them say “i cant wait for you guys to find it” and I never hear about it again. Obscure quest maybe? Some kind of combination that summons something? All that type of shit is in this game. Yea - it does lend itself to elitism or cliques keeping the info quiet. But the mystery concept in MMO’s has been an attribute in how many animes? Hell, thats even the core concept in Ready Player One movie / book.
I also agree with
That seems to at least be their middle ground for the instancing conversation that still provides multiple opportunities for you to obtain what you want. If you cant get into the dungeon with your group- then within 5 minutes there are places for your groups to go to exp and possibly loot. Walk a little further and youre at a whole new instance that people generally dont go to - not because its bad, but because Tomb is 30 seconds from NH and that dungeon* is a 5-10 minute walk. Which is also passing multiple camps with rares on the way there. (If you get where Im going with this.)
As far as end game? I see no literal difference in EQ’s end game and this games end game. The levels for end game bosses are all over the place. But just because a boss is 56 - doesnt mean hes a pushover for 60’s. The sandstorms you run into, you may or may not want to blindly walk through the middle of them when the game goes live. Then, just as I mentioned with the loot - theres tons of different end game “bosses” for people to kill. I just dont see how a top end guild wouldnt get burned out killing everything on repeat for weeks on end, tracking it all. The amount of mobs thats known and listed on discord that fall into this category “raid boss” - would easily match the amount of bosses available in classic, Kunark and Velious (VP and TOV included). Are they pinnacle bosses? No - but neither was Venril Sathir. How many people had not only the time to kill Vulak, but the numbers and raid strategy to do so in regards to pinnacle bosses, anyways? Very few. So yes, it does read like a big post of whining when you guys talk about elitism, cliques, etc.
Then you literally have no clue who I am. Not that that even matters. How about, in your infinite experience with raiding in EQ - you clarify what youre talking about?
No one gives a shit about Befallen being perma-camped. People absolutely care that Frenzied Ghoul is permacamped. And thinking there aren't enough autists to perma-camp the given stated number of raid targets in game is just willful ignorance.
I think the point is that it's a design decision to have 1 frenzied ghoul, that's spawns in one spot, in one zone. It's a design decision that is optional. Just because EQ did things this way doesn't mean MNM has to.
Thats a fair assumption from someone looking in from the outside. But I answered that complaint in the original post. There are multiple frenzies across the game. You might have 1 str on one cloak and 1 stam on the other. Which sure, argue about BIS. But when Frenzied Ghoul was relevant - I wouldnt have given a single fk about which one I had as long as it had the same effect.
And here is where you and I ultimately agree. Which is why I put that mark at the 6 month line.
That's my fuggin point. Like...... this can be avoided if you make the leveling experience challenging, but exping is too easy. It's slowish but easy. You could also avoid this is you don't invite thousands of people and keep NDAs on the shit and consider moving item lists/ fine tuning mobs. But noooo.... can't do that or our "cool" friends will be upset.
I'm like 90% sure there is no NDA and they do in fact plan to scramble some things at release plus a number of things are intentionally being withheld until release. Curious where you're getting the impression that's not the case?
They aren't going to scramble shit. They have too much work to do. They are only 20% done in their eyes. Leveling can be fixed by slowing the curve. You can still solo and some solo classes could and should be good at it than others. That's how it works and why it works, uniqueness. Not that fucking hard. Also 9 months from now is not a success IMO, however, I can see where you are coming from. I mean look at AOC (what AOC?) amirite?
The haste cloaks are the same haste_% in Wyrmsbane and Tel-Ekir, when the latter boss is 10 levels higher than anything in Wyrmsbane? I can't log onto the public test to check, but I thought the Tel-Ekir haste cloak was 15% or some such.I also agree with
The poopsock brigade can, and absolutely will, lock down entire zones if that's what it takes to keep the door behind them closed. You can never give players the power to control the game experience for other players, because it will 1000000% be abused to fuck and back. And the players they shit on won't ever be coming back. This isn't conjecture, it's simple human nature that we have seen dozens of failed MMOs try this same bullshit on.
