Mount & Blade - A Clash of Kings 2.0 Releasing March 28th!

All flaws/issues aside, all I know is whenever a M&B thread gets bumped/created, I need to play a new PoP compaign, so knock it off assholes!

I'm probably gonna import myself and start over. I didn't realize you could send your companions off to build your right to rule before you even establish your kingdom. Starting your own kingdom with zero right to rule is just mind-numbingly tedious.

If you're unable to import directly, just do the following:
Export old character, save file as OLDCHAR, open in text editor.
Start new game, export character NEWCHAR. Edit the NEWCHAR export file and give yourself whatever variables you had on OLDCHAR. Then import that character back.

Can you edit companions? Some of these guys have stupid skills. I also am tempted to set all the companions I find to my own level so I can pick all skills. Not sure if there is a way to edit them though.

Tuco_sl said:

You can but it's not trivial. just search for warband import companions. Be sure to backup your files and saves

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I ended up using Morgh's tools which required a restart. I went so far as looking up the basic stats (STR/AGI/INT/CHA) and skills (Power strike, iron flesh etc...) of each possible companion and "backward-engineering-figuring-out" what their stats would be at level 1.

Turns out Lethaldarin really sucks assballs at level 1 (with a whooping 5 points to spend in skills once you figure in both level and INT) - even though he's a powerhouse if you manage to hire him early on. I had no good way to figuring out weapon skills (the progression is far from linear) so I gave every hero whatever my toon started with - favoring whatever was their highest 2 skills without dropping anything under 60. I figured raising Sir Alistair's throwing from 15 to 60 would be too much of a pain in the ass.

Globally it was roughly a 100x2 with the rest at 60x4 or so. I had to put it all in a spreadsheet and downgrade everyone, but I feel like I can hire anyone at level 1 and not feel like I cheated too much. I completely broke every balance aspect of the companions though so I know I totally am cheating. But the 2 hours it took me to figure all these stats out make me feel like I did not cheat at all. How amazing!

I also did not change the cost of any member. So Lethaldarin, who sucks more than Leslie as a DPS/tank guy at level 1, still costs 6k or so. I did raise any hero who had a skill/stats count more than 20% below average (42 for stats and 15.6 for skills) to the average. So Lethaldarin, to keep him as an example, does not suck that bad. My reasoning was that Leslie or Ansen will spend skills on tons of Int based stuff while Lethal will focus on damage. And if anyone is interested I think Sir Alistair is basically #1 on every layer if you take him at level 1.

Yeah I took my 20 man companion warband against Alaric von Brouhaha's peasant rebellion and wiped them out, but the fucker escaped so no Qualis gem.

21 is you plus 20 companions? Do you do an insane amount of micromanagement when they complain or is there another way to keep them all happy?

Also want to know how long the battle took!

Tuco_sl said:

It didn't take very long, and I have my settings to put about 600ish units on the map at a time. Overall the first battle eliminated 1700 of them and took probably ten minutes. The second half of the army is still alive though, I should approached it from the side so I could collect all the enemies instead of half of them.


If you have a high leadership skill and keep your moral high (easy to do if you don't have many units) it's pretty easy to maintain your party. You can also turn it off (since it doesn't really make sense anyway).

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Turn it off in Pendor? I remember doing some file edits in vanilla years ago but gave up trying on Pendor because a lot of the code changed. I'm sure it's doable but sounds like a PITA.

Also here's a good overview of the new "make your own order" feature.

Now, how about training your Order troops? Their stats are miserable.
You need skilled companions, preferably with good Training skill. They will be able to train your knights up to their own attribute (Strength/Agility), skills and weapon proficiencies levels.

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Sounds kinda cool.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=267392.0

I just tell whoever complains to fuck off. Anytime someone wants to leave I just persuade them to stick around.

Making your own order is horrible and tedious. Like the first thing I went ahead and upgraded was their mounts, for some strange reason the best mount i could get was the noldor steppe pony, so I spent 50k and almost two months on that. During that time I discovered you can dispatch a companion to train your order, which raised their ride skill and lo and behold, I now had access to better fucking mounts. Glad I wasted the time and money on the steppe pony. The whole thing takes so fucking long that by the time you have a fully trained and kitted up knighthood order, you could have an entire fucking army of any pre-existing knight chapter ready to go. I'm probably gonna train up some silvermists while I wait for the 6 more months my order will take to finish getting set up.

Zhaun_sl said:

Pendor gives the option in the Camp/Options menu.

Making your own order sounds awesome, if slow/expensive.

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The option to change "companion messages" lets you turn it to "all" or "few". Few means you will not get the complaint screen but they still lose morale I think - you just get a quick message at the bottom left instead of the dialogue screen.

Zhaun_sl said:

Just a word on this. I permanently lost a companion due to this last night. I had a not so great battle and she got upset for the battle not going well and having to put up with people in the group and afterwards she left, I couldn't talk her out of it either.

So I don't know how Tuco the Magnificent manages things, but I'm cutting back to the proper 10ish "circle friendly" companions I think.

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Except you never permanently lose a companion. On the off chance that someone 'leaves for good' (still happens to me from time to time), they will start showing up in taverns again in 3-4 days because whatever they were going back to didn't work out.